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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4272161" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>I completely agree with that, Folly. Having a huge attack bonus certainly has merit, and there will be the occasional monster with enormous AC, but I was responding to the OP, who was making it sound like losing a point of BAB is as bad as losing a caster level. Just trying to explain it's not so bad, and on the topic of compensating with high ability scores, in some cases this is an obvious plus. A Goliath loses a BAB from LA, but gains +2 to hit from the +4 str, so it's generally worth it, strictly from that perspective.</p><p></p><p>In regards to your build, my most effective "hitty" build was...a full BAB warblade. But the one everyone else in the campaign screamed bloody murder over was a multiclassed Goliath Barbarian / Martial Rogue (feats for SA). He was down from full BAB by 2 points, but had Shock Trooper to PA to his liking, and reach + Knockback to protect his pathetically low-AC self afterwards.</p><p></p><p>Note of interest: If you have Tome of Battle, you really may want to consider taking two feats for a maneuver and stance (requires the former first) if you're worried about hitting. Not only are they useful to have in general, you can then get your weapon a [Discipline] weapon of whatever discipline your stance is from. It's a +1 market price, instead of the +1 attack/damage you'd normally get from an upgrade, it gives a +1 attack, +3 if in a stance or using a strike from that discipline. In other words, it's a +3 to hit. Useful way to dramatically improve your accuracy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 4272161, member: 35909"] I completely agree with that, Folly. Having a huge attack bonus certainly has merit, and there will be the occasional monster with enormous AC, but I was responding to the OP, who was making it sound like losing a point of BAB is as bad as losing a caster level. Just trying to explain it's not so bad, and on the topic of compensating with high ability scores, in some cases this is an obvious plus. A Goliath loses a BAB from LA, but gains +2 to hit from the +4 str, so it's generally worth it, strictly from that perspective. In regards to your build, my most effective "hitty" build was...a full BAB warblade. But the one everyone else in the campaign screamed bloody murder over was a multiclassed Goliath Barbarian / Martial Rogue (feats for SA). He was down from full BAB by 2 points, but had Shock Trooper to PA to his liking, and reach + Knockback to protect his pathetically low-AC self afterwards. Note of interest: If you have Tome of Battle, you really may want to consider taking two feats for a maneuver and stance (requires the former first) if you're worried about hitting. Not only are they useful to have in general, you can then get your weapon a [Discipline] weapon of whatever discipline your stance is from. It's a +1 market price, instead of the +1 attack/damage you'd normally get from an upgrade, it gives a +1 attack, +3 if in a stance or using a strike from that discipline. In other words, it's a +3 to hit. Useful way to dramatically improve your accuracy. [/QUOTE]
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