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<blockquote data-quote="Branding Opportunity" data-source="post: 3263920" data-attributes="member: 31812">Interesting question whether he automatically fails the Str check.&nbsp; As he has an effective Str score of 0, so in game terms he really has no ability to resist.&nbsp; In addition, the trip attack already has a built in limitation that you can only trip creatures that are one size larger than yourself.&nbsp; So no opposed Str check for the demon; you automatically trip it if you can hit its touch AC.&nbsp; Should have advanced him to Huge size&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" /> I finally looked more closely at the Magebane ability.&nbsp; I didn't realize it also affects creatures with arcane spell-like abilities.&nbsp; Wow, that's powerful.&nbsp; Everyone and their gnome grandmother has arcane spell-like abilities.&nbsp; Kind of makes all other bane weapons obsolete, and for only a +1 adjustment.&nbsp; Hmmm.On the other hand, looking up the hezrou's spell-like abilities, the majority are divine.&nbsp; I'm going to rule that this demon's spell-like abilities are divine in nature, and that Magebane sadly does not apply.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Branding Opportunity, post: 3263920, member: 31812"] Interesting question whether he automatically fails the Str check. As he has an effective Str score of 0, so in game terms he really has no ability to resist. In addition, the trip attack already has a built in limitation that you can only trip creatures that are one size larger than yourself. So no opposed Str check for the demon; you automatically trip it if you can hit its touch AC. Should have advanced him to Huge size :] I finally looked more closely at the Magebane ability. I didn't realize it also affects creatures with arcane spell-like abilities. Wow, that's powerful. Everyone and their gnome grandmother has arcane spell-like abilities. Kind of makes all other bane weapons obsolete, and for only a +1 adjustment. Hmmm. On the other hand, looking up the hezrou's spell-like abilities, the majority are divine. I'm going to rule that this demon's spell-like abilities are divine in nature, and that Magebane sadly does not apply. [/QUOTE]

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