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<blockquote data-quote="Lupin" data-source="post: 9137158" data-attributes="member: 7042758"><p>I think the main point you brought up to begin with is that you thought non-3/3.5 SRDs were never "on the table," which means our whole back-and-forth has been over semantics (I guess it's natural, being an RPG forum and all <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />). Let me just say this: the older editions getting SRDs and going CC were clearly <em>on the table</em> as in "had been publicly discussed as candidates for consideration," but not <em>on the table</em> as in "guaranteed" or "promised" ("on the table" means "able to be negotiated or arranged by compromise").</p><p></p><p>My initial post is simply saying the delays in getting the already authored 3/3.5 SRDs into Creative Commons means the likelihood of ever potentially seeing any other vintage editions released into CC is looking to be threefold: slim chance, fat chance, and/or no chance. And I don't love that. That's all I was trying to say.</p><p></p><p>Thank you for debating in good faith. There's too much negativity out there, and I'm sure I'm not helping the situation any.</p><p></p><p>----</p><p>If or when WotC follows through on releasing the 3/3.5 SRD into CC with no or minimal cuts/changes, then I can rest a little easier knowing 3rd-party retro-D&D publications don't have to rely exclusively on the 5.1 SRD or the crusty old OGL. Knowing they're not at risk of getting sued by WotC, however unlikely that is, would be a big relief to everyone in the retro-clone 3PP niche, I'm sure.</p><p>(However, I saw a video of the short preview for Greg Gillespie's Dragonslayer—mainly a B/X-1E hybrid—and it cites only the Creative Commons 5.1 SRD. I'd think the notion that you'd arrive naturally at a clone of vintage BX/AD&D from 5e's text would be an uncomfortably long stretch, though...)</p><p></p><p>EDIT: My apologies if this whole discussion really belonged in the Publishing Business subforum; would making a new thread there for this have been the better approach? (I didn't expect it to spark a debate/discussion, though, honestly...my posts elsewhere online are generally just ignored for being insufficiently incendiary or hyperbolic.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lupin, post: 9137158, member: 7042758"] I think the main point you brought up to begin with is that you thought non-3/3.5 SRDs were never "on the table," which means our whole back-and-forth has been over semantics (I guess it's natural, being an RPG forum and all ;)). Let me just say this: the older editions getting SRDs and going CC were clearly [I]on the table[/I] as in "had been publicly discussed as candidates for consideration," but not [I]on the table[/I] as in "guaranteed" or "promised" ("on the table" means "able to be negotiated or arranged by compromise"). My initial post is simply saying the delays in getting the already authored 3/3.5 SRDs into Creative Commons means the likelihood of ever potentially seeing any other vintage editions released into CC is looking to be threefold: slim chance, fat chance, and/or no chance. And I don't love that. That's all I was trying to say. Thank you for debating in good faith. There's too much negativity out there, and I'm sure I'm not helping the situation any. ---- If or when WotC follows through on releasing the 3/3.5 SRD into CC with no or minimal cuts/changes, then I can rest a little easier knowing 3rd-party retro-D&D publications don't have to rely exclusively on the 5.1 SRD or the crusty old OGL. Knowing they're not at risk of getting sued by WotC, however unlikely that is, would be a big relief to everyone in the retro-clone 3PP niche, I'm sure. (However, I saw a video of the short preview for Greg Gillespie's Dragonslayer—mainly a B/X-1E hybrid—and it cites only the Creative Commons 5.1 SRD. I'd think the notion that you'd arrive naturally at a clone of vintage BX/AD&D from 5e's text would be an uncomfortably long stretch, though...) EDIT: My apologies if this whole discussion really belonged in the Publishing Business subforum; would making a new thread there for this have been the better approach? (I didn't expect it to spark a debate/discussion, though, honestly...my posts elsewhere online are generally just ignored for being insufficiently incendiary or hyperbolic.) [/QUOTE]
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