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<blockquote data-quote="Envisioner" data-source="post: 7973527" data-attributes="member: 6749263"><p>Ah, those were the days....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why? Guys weren't intimidated by the giant muscly barbarians with greatswords, why should girls have been intimidated by the floating glowing sorceresses with slinky silk nightgowns and plunging decolletage? This is fantasy wish-fulfillment; if it gives you an inferiority complex, then you're viewing it through the exact opposite of the intended lens.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Disagree completely. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sensible adventuring clothes are a bit boring IMO, but I can buy that gritty realism can improve immersion for some people, so that's fine. But "of different body types"? This is a game that mostly revolves around physical challenges. People who are morbidly obese don't belong in dungeons, I'm sorry but it's true. Unless you're a wizard who somehow got to fifth level and started casting Fly, without ever having to go out into the dangerous wilderlands in search of adventure (possibl,e, but distinctly unlikely), then you can't even get down the stairs into some undead-filled crypt, let alone cross chasms in the Underdark on a narrow stone bridge that threatens to dramatically collapse at the last moment.</p><p></p><p>And quite frankly, I don't want to see unattractive people all over my D&D picture-books. Those craepy halflings in the PHB are bad enough. Once again, this is fantasy wish-fulfillment. The Rule of Cool is more important than people who have insecurities or mental health problems (and I say that as someone who's been in therapy for five years to treat his depression and anger issues). If you feel ostracized by D&D, there are a billion other hobbies you can choose from. Get over yourself, you're not entitled to walk into an existing hobby community and force it to conform with your preferences, any more than you're allowed to walk into an NFL Football league and turn all their uniforms pink because you think it's prettier. If you did that, you'd be cheesing off every existing fan by destroying something they love and you don't, and they'd absolutely have the right to be furious with you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Envisioner, post: 7973527, member: 6749263"] Ah, those were the days.... Why? Guys weren't intimidated by the giant muscly barbarians with greatswords, why should girls have been intimidated by the floating glowing sorceresses with slinky silk nightgowns and plunging decolletage? This is fantasy wish-fulfillment; if it gives you an inferiority complex, then you're viewing it through the exact opposite of the intended lens. Disagree completely. :cool: Sensible adventuring clothes are a bit boring IMO, but I can buy that gritty realism can improve immersion for some people, so that's fine. But "of different body types"? This is a game that mostly revolves around physical challenges. People who are morbidly obese don't belong in dungeons, I'm sorry but it's true. Unless you're a wizard who somehow got to fifth level and started casting Fly, without ever having to go out into the dangerous wilderlands in search of adventure (possibl,e, but distinctly unlikely), then you can't even get down the stairs into some undead-filled crypt, let alone cross chasms in the Underdark on a narrow stone bridge that threatens to dramatically collapse at the last moment. And quite frankly, I don't want to see unattractive people all over my D&D picture-books. Those craepy halflings in the PHB are bad enough. Once again, this is fantasy wish-fulfillment. The Rule of Cool is more important than people who have insecurities or mental health problems (and I say that as someone who's been in therapy for five years to treat his depression and anger issues). If you feel ostracized by D&D, there are a billion other hobbies you can choose from. Get over yourself, you're not entitled to walk into an existing hobby community and force it to conform with your preferences, any more than you're allowed to walk into an NFL Football league and turn all their uniforms pink because you think it's prettier. If you did that, you'd be cheesing off every existing fan by destroying something they love and you don't, and they'd absolutely have the right to be furious with you. [/QUOTE]
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