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<blockquote data-quote="Envisioner" data-source="post: 7973573" data-attributes="member: 6749263"><p>I completely disagree that this message is present in the situation; I think that people with your perspective always see that message only because you've been taught to look for it. It's a face in the clouds, which you only saw because you went looking for faces; if you go to a woman's studies course and they tell you to go hunting for things that seem misogynistic, then you can easily find things that look that way. But the cloud isn't actually face-shaped, it's just a cloud. The babe art isn't misogynistic, it's just something that a male artist, hired by a company whose produce had a mostly-male audience at the time, tried to make look pleasing so that people, mostly men but also some women, would enjoy looking at it. The fact that today's girls mostly look at it and see only sexism, that's the fault of the ideologues who have educated them with the idea that they should view the world through this lens. If we were raising our girls to be, say, artistically inclined, and to place their priority on evaluating the beauty of images from a technical and aesthetic perspective, then they'd look at those scantily-clad women and see only the artistic beauty being presented. Instead, they're being told to imagine sociological ramifications which aren't actually there, and they think everything has a message and is trying to change people's minds, instead of just being a pretty picture which is there for them to look at if they'd enjoy doing so, and can easily be ignored otherwise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Envisioner, post: 7973573, member: 6749263"] I completely disagree that this message is present in the situation; I think that people with your perspective always see that message only because you've been taught to look for it. It's a face in the clouds, which you only saw because you went looking for faces; if you go to a woman's studies course and they tell you to go hunting for things that seem misogynistic, then you can easily find things that look that way. But the cloud isn't actually face-shaped, it's just a cloud. The babe art isn't misogynistic, it's just something that a male artist, hired by a company whose produce had a mostly-male audience at the time, tried to make look pleasing so that people, mostly men but also some women, would enjoy looking at it. The fact that today's girls mostly look at it and see only sexism, that's the fault of the ideologues who have educated them with the idea that they should view the world through this lens. If we were raising our girls to be, say, artistically inclined, and to place their priority on evaluating the beauty of images from a technical and aesthetic perspective, then they'd look at those scantily-clad women and see only the artistic beauty being presented. Instead, they're being told to imagine sociological ramifications which aren't actually there, and they think everything has a message and is trying to change people's minds, instead of just being a pretty picture which is there for them to look at if they'd enjoy doing so, and can easily be ignored otherwise. [/QUOTE]
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