Complete Arcane

[fafhrd]

My vote

There's nothing that quite has the snap of Complete Warrior, Complete Arcane or Complete Divine, is there?

Cheers!

The complete chicane

 

[Felon]

I'll be surprised if the fourth book is called anything other than The Complete Expert. It just makes sense given the generic titles of the other three books. I will be interested to see how they craft a useful book for skillsy characters. There's only so much you can do with skills; unlike feats and spells, the skill list in D&D is finite. I'd be interested to see if they add any new skills in this book and how useful the new skills would be.

My bet is that we'll see mundane equipment, quite likely a lot of the same stuff presented in the 2e Thief kit book and regurgitated in recent months in the espionage-themed issue of Dragon. Then there's the sneaky batch of discretion-oriented magic items and spells. Also, remember, even skill-oriented classes have special abilities like Uncanny Dodge that feats can augment.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

1. A Sourcebook on Combat & War for all classes
2. A Sourcebook on Divine Magic for all classes
3. A Sourcebook on Arcane Magic for all classes
4. A Sourcebook on Subtlety & Social Niceties for all classes

I think these are going to be right on, although I believe that the fourth and last Complete book will cover character themes more along the angle of stealth, sneaking, reconnaissance, and not so much knock-offs of the Expert-type classes. And WotC has been hinting at only four Complete books, btw.

1. A Sourcebook on Outdoorsmanship & Nature Magic for all classes

All of these will be shunted to the Environment line of books, which will begin with Frostburn, IMO. It makes way too much sense.


Regards,
Eric Anondson

 

[Olive]

There's also the fact that the RPGA said there would be 4 complete books, which makes me pretty sure there won't be five. I can'tfidn where this was resported but it was on here somewhere.

I have no idea what the fourth one will be called myself, but I'm with those who think it will be sneaky/experty, and with those who think that the wilderness stuff will be in the environment books.

 

[jerichothebard]

Without a doubt, hehe. What's D&D with out arcane magic?

My homebrew campaign setting...

 

[MerricB]

There's also the fact that the RPGA said there would be 4 complete books, which makes me pretty sure there won't be five. I can'tfidn where this was resported but it was on here somewhere.

Yes, I remember reporting it a while back, so it must be in one of my posts somewhere.

Of course, it does rely on you trusting my reporting skills!

Cheers

 

[Olive]

Of course, it does rely on you trusting my reporting skills!

I don't have a problem with that1 I don't think I can remember a time when you've steered us wrong !

 

[CRGreathouse]

Complete Warrior has over 80 feats. So we might be looking at an average of over 300 feats for those books. Plus the feats in BoED. And the Player's Handbook feats. Assuming that I'm wrong in my estimate of the next books number of feats, we can still safely assume over 400 feats in all in 3.5.

400 feats. In all.

400 feats.

Just saying it feels weird. Four hundred. A typical non-fighter can get about 8 feats at level 20. 8 out of 400. Eight out of four hundred.

I'd guess slightly over 200 feats for the Complete books, since CW should have the most feats. With the 106 from the PH and 52 from the BoED, we might hit 400 -- but it'll be close.

As for the strangeness of the number... I allow 440 feats in my campaign at the moment and look forward to adding more!

 

[Shard O'Glase]

It would be nice if in the complete divine and arcane they ahve feats or prestige classes that jive with psions they have a note on how it would pan out for a psion to take it. There not really arcane or divine there just magic guys.

Personally I'm not looking forward to the ton of feats. I think they start to trend toward making feats that let you do things you should already be able to do.
They aint at Feat: Tie shoe: You can tie your shoe.
Bonus this feat allows you to use your use rope skill to tie your shoes.
Normal: you can't tie your shoes.
But still tons of feats isn't always a good thing.

 

[ohGr]

I'm rather partial to Complete Bastard.