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[Taren Seeker]

Ok, we have Complete Warrior and Complete Divine, and presumably Complete Arcane is in the pipe.

I saw someone in another thread complain about the name of Complete Divine. I fine it a little awkward too and would have preferred something like Complete Faith as a title.

It seems like stealth and scouting would be a good bet, perhaps with social interactions thrown in. Anyone have better speculation?

4th book, I dub thee Complete Trickery.

So, the big question is, what would you name these books, and what will the next book be? What will be the focus of the 4th book?

 

[Olive]

I was expecting a complete spellcaster, keeping with the idea of not being splats for X, Y, & Z classes ut rater spellcasting for all classes (which is trickier I admit).

But thinking about it, a complete divine might have rules on how to make faith relevent to all classes and that would be really really quite cool.

Anyway, I think complete tirckery would be a great name, but the way things are going complete social skills seems more likely.

 

[Ranger REG]

Complete Divine is okay by me. It's generic enough to include rangers, who may or may not be of a faith or church.

And it goes nicely with the upcoming companion spellcasting book, Complete Arcane.

As for the "roguish" characters, which also includes the bard, it's a tough one, but I'd go for Complete Secrecy, which can mean that characters like the rogue operate in secret or covert, but it can also mean that bards have a way of knowing something that is not common knowledge, based on their experience for gathering tales and information.

 

[DevoutlyApathetic]

I'm not fond of Complete Secrecy, secrecy doesn't involve knowing secrets, but keeping them. That and Warrior, Divine, Arcane... the same type of words would have been nice. I think it should be Arcanist instead... actually it might be. That one wasn't annouced yet was it?

Hmmmm......Complete Knave? Knave isn't really 'bad' anymore. Shame rogue is a class. Scoundrel is too negative. Cad is too british.

We should definately go modern: Complete Gangsta.

 

[Ranger REG]

And Complete Divine should be Complete Divinist (or "Diviner", which sounds like a specialist wizard class)?

Maybe they should be back and rename Complete Warrior to Complete Warfare, but considering the content of that book, it would not live up to that title. Trust me.

As for going modern ... ... I've had more than enough of that with Hercules: The Legendary Journey to fill two lifetimes. That should be left to d20 Modern.

 

[Davelozzi]

If they were planning on doing Complete Divine, they should never have put the divine feats in the Complete Warrior. I understand that WotC wants as many people to buy each book as possible, but just slipping feats into the wrong book is a pretty weak way of going about it.

 

[Ranger REG]

Those divine feats are more about martial and useful for the paladins (and warmongering clerics) so I can forgive them.

Besides, there are martial-type spellcasting classes in CW.

My guess is that Complete Divine is less martial and focus on ... things divine (for lack of a beter word, but something along healing and communing).

But if you are going to look at the weak areas of CW, jump on the bandwagon and criticize the Samurai base class, which IMHO, is the wrong name for it.

 

[Pants]

But if you are going to look at the weak areas of CW, jump on the bandwagon and criticize the Samurai base class, which IMHO, is the wrong name for it.

Even without the name of 'Samurai' it's still a pretty crappy class.

 

[Taren Seeker]

Even without the name of 'Samurai' it's still a pretty crappy class.

Tru dat. If you want combat paths be a Ranger.

So, it looks like people are thinking that roguishness will be the 4th book. I have to say, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around what the focus will actually be. It seems like a lot of it could overlap CW or Complete Arcane if Bards are a focus.

So, what might we see...more trap creation rules, guilds, more uses for social skills? A few PrC's that focus on non-combat rogues and general stealth types? I don't know how they can fill a book with that. Maybe the example PrC's will be 2 pages instead of 1

 

[Pants]

I still subscribe to the belief that the Complete Book will be the Complete Skill Monkey