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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6043890" data-attributes="member: 1465">The "engine" of the game (challenges resolution i.e. ability & skill checks, spells and saving throws, combat actions) is definitely less complex than 3e, which was fine for me ten years ago i.e. when I had time...The complexity for character creation, advancement, and in-game management is higher than 3e (core), probably not much higher but still higher.For me, 5e is definitely more feasible than 3e to run as a DM at the moment, and about the same hard to play.Unfortunately, I have to think about my friends too... they also have similar life stuff than me, so they would only play something that doesn't require much time or effort. I could only get 2 of my previous players or co-players interested enough in playtesting the first packet of 5e (one or two more could not be persuaded exactly because they didn't believe me when I told them that this was going to be "rules-lighter" than 3e). Later those who accepted got the 2nd and 3rd packets with character creation rules, made a quick page count, browsed the character options, and even they told me to forget it. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm    :-S" data-shortname=":-S" />The conclusion: current complexity level is just what I like. If I want to play alone. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></blockquote>

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