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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dragon-Slayer" data-source="post: 3912103" data-attributes="member: 19577">I think the worst travesty is the actual translation of Conan to film so far, which is not necessarily Arnold's fault, but in the direction.    Having read a fair amount of R.E.H. over the years, it is very obvious that Howard detested civilization, a sentiment that I understand and share. The films equate a barbarian to an idiot, Howard wrote his barbarians as intelligent and canny, if overly superstitious. Kull, even as king has a wild barbarian heart, Bran Mak Morn, king of the Picts is intelligent and strategic in his decisions. Likewise, Conan is not written as a fool or an idiot. He may be ignorant of society's ways and means, but he is not an imbecile. Quotes from Robert E. Howard:Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. I always find myself instinctively arrayed on the side of the barbarian, against the powers of organized civilization. Barbarism is the natural state of mankind. Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance and barbarism must always ultimately triumph.  What we get in films:    "Conan! There are six of them against one of her!"    "One..two..three...I think you're right."</blockquote>