Concealment and fog spells

[sfedi]

Note also that while in a Fog (or Darkness, for that matter) you move at half speed.

 

[sfedi]

Hyp. you're right.
I wonder if that rule applies for the Fog effect, though.
Since the concealment granted is because of the intervening fog between the spotter and the spotted. And that implies that the conecalment works both ways.

Other effects are more explicit about giving concealment if someone is here, there (i.e. Darkness) or affected by the spell (i.e. Blur), but Fog creates an effect that obscures vision, depending on how much intervening fog is between the creatures.

 

[The messenger]

Think of it this way: If you cast the spell to conceal yourself, your enemy can't see you unless they get close enough! Likewise you can't see them through the fog! If you use Faire Fire to illuminate your enemy and the enter the fog you'll have a nice color fog!

 

[sfedi]

I didn't get what your point was :\. Sorry.

 

[Pickaxe]

Hyp. you're right.
I wonder if that rule applies for the Fog effect, though.
Since the concealment granted is because of the intervening fog between the spotter and the spotted. And that implies that the conecalment works both ways.

Other effects are more explicit about giving concealment if someone is here, there (i.e. Darkness) or affected by the spell (i.e. Blur), but Fog creates an effect that obscures vision, depending on how much intervening fog is between the creatures.

Note that the section on concealment in the combat chapter explicitly mentions fog as providing concealment; in fact, it's the first thing it mentions as an example. So, the discussion on concealment does not seem to be making a distinction between foggy concealment and, say, darkness concealment, and the implication is that fog is covered by the specific rules given there.

I can definitely understand sfedi's point of view; being in a space with fog could easily be interpreted as affecting your vision as well as providing concealment to you. But I think Hyp has pointed out the right ruling, which is not only a reasonable interpretation but also gives the fog spells greater utility. If being in a foggy square conceals you, and conceals your enemies from you, OM and FC will largely only be useful for covering an escape.

--Axe

 

[sfedi]

Yep, this is crystal clear, at least for me.

Thanks folks!

Bye bye thread!