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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nebulous" data-source="post: 5826496" data-attributes="member: 31465">I know, i agree.  The clever application of kits in 5e should be able to transform the base fighter into ANY class anyone can imagine.  Or, just play the base fighter without any elaboration.  Look at it this way....if Conan, Robin Hood and King Arthur are all fighters, and all level 18...it makes sense that their chance of hitting and damage output are all similar, even though they have vastly different styles and defenses.  They still are all badasses in combat.  They are inherently ALL fighters with different flavors that i think can be fixed by kits....in the case above, the Barbarian, Ranger and Warlord/Noble kit.</blockquote>