Concluding "Expedition to Castle Ravenloft" (Spoilers)

[Nikosandros]

The statement that "D&D players still have imaginations, don't they" was mine. And I stand behind it.

I only take exception to the notion that the adventure is somehow flawed or incomplete. It's not. This whole business is as though someone were slagging a make/model of cars because this particular line was produced without a hood ornament.

Unfortunately the hood ornament lovers are the ones making the most noise online. :\

Yes, well, whatever...

Frankly, I'm somewhat surprised by the snide remarks I'm reading in this thread...

There is an editorial mistake in a book. This certainly doesn't make the book unusable. I never claimed this. On the other hand, it is a mistake and as a paying customer I have every right to complain. There is a flaw in the adventure and it is incomplete. The fact that I can easily come up with those answers on my own is wholly immaterial. Also, my complaint has nothing to do with my immagination or lack thereof.

 

[Crothian]

The statement that "D&D players still have imaginations, don't they" was mine. And I stand behind it.

I only take exception to the notion that the adventure is somehow flawed or incomplete. It's not. This whole business is as though someone were slagging a make/model of cars because this particular line was produced without a hood ornament.

Unfortunately the hood ornament lovers are the ones making the most noise online. :\

So, you must know exactly what is missing? Because without knowing what is missing there is no way you could know how important it really is. For all we know even though the adventure seems complete (aside from those parts that are referencing the missing section) it actually isn't complete. You are just guessing that's its a hood ornament.

 

[Shadowslayer]

. There is a flaw in the adventure and it is incomplete.

They left in a reference to something that, in the end, didn't make the cut. It had an editorial mistake.

It is, as a matter of fact, NOT incomplete.

 

[Vanuslux]

Unfortunately the hood ornament lovers are the ones making the most noise online. :\

I don't know...I'm hearing a lot of noise being made by people solely up in arms about other people being up in arms. If there's one close second to the number of people who complain about products, it's people who complain about people complaining about products.

Edit: And now, ironically, I'm here complaining about people complaining about people complaining about products.

 

[Shadowslayer]

So, you must know exactly what is missing? Because without knowing what is missing there is no way you could know how important it really is. For all we know even though the adventure seems complete (aside from those parts that are referencing the missing section) it actually isn't complete. You are just guessing that's its a hood ornament.

So...if you find out a year after the fact that some strange breed of celestial troglodytes were supposed to be included in the FR sourcebook, but got cut due to space restraints, you're gonna come online and announce to the world that an A+ product is actually incomplete?

 

[Crothian]

So...if you find out a year after the fact that some strange breed of celestial troglodytes were supposed to be included in the FR sourcebook, but got cut due to space restraints, you're gonna come online and announce to the world that an A+ product is actually incomplete?

If it was supposed to be there and it was not, it is incomplete. And this is by no means a A+ product even ignoring this snafu.

None of this means the book is unusable.

 

[Crothian]

They left in a reference to something that, in the end, didn't make the cut. It had an editorial mistake.

It is, as a matter of fact, NOT incomplete.

Unless you can link to someone from Wizards who has said this it sounds like you are making things up.

 

[Nikosandros]

So...if you find out a year after the fact that some strange breed of celestial troglodytes were supposed to be included in the FR sourcebook, but got cut due to space restraints, you're gonna come online and announce to the world that an A+ product is actually incomplete?

The comparison in not even remotely appropriate... here we are talking about the conclusion of the adventure, not about how a random encounter with Bobo the werebadger, that we read about in a blog, is not actually included...

An adventure without conclusion is incomplete. I find it rather surprising that people are arguing this. :\

The fact that you don't care about this is fine and dandy, but doesn't change the matter. Also, I still like the adventure and I certainly never even dreamed of boycotting WotC or even this book because of that mistake.

 

[Nikosandros]

Unless you can link to someone from Wizards who has said this it sounds like you are making things up.

Heh... this reminds me of the whole halfling outrider lack of BAB issue from Sword and Fist...

 

[Shadowslayer]

Unless you can link to someone from Wizards who has said this it sounds like you are making things up.

Well, with your avowed statement that "the adventure IS incomplete", I could thow that right back at you. But I think this has gotten as heated as I'm comfortable with.

I'll only close with this thought. The ad says 224 page adventure. That's what I got. There's no pages missing, so obviously this "conclusion" didn't make the cut.

You come to Barovia, you do what you're supposed to do, face down Strahd and hopefully win the day. End of adventure.

If you want to call it incomplete because there's no epilogue, knock yourself out.