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Confirmed - Rangers get d8 HD in 3.5e.
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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 847075" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>Fixing it is pretty easy. Like the monk, WotC gave out abilities that weren't always flavorful, but more importantly gave no choices in the matter.</p><p></p><p>WotC and ranger players will <em>never</em> agree on what traits a ranger should have, so WotC shouldn't try to assign them.</p><p></p><p>All they have to do is give out some kind of "slot" and say "here, fill it with what you want."</p><p></p><p>Since they don't want to step on the fighter's toes, I guess that means those slots won't be "combat feats". Maybe something to do with the wilderness... at least every ranger has that in common. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You may be sure about the first sentence, but can you be sure about the second sentence? Most of the DMs I know use some kind of alt ranger, precisely because they're not satisfied with it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Listen to the Ed Stark interview - complaining did some good. Stark said that they changed the ranger precisely because of the complaints.</p><p></p><p>He said that people wanted someone skilled, a woodsman, Aragorn, which was not represented by the 3.0 ranger. I doubt the 3.5 ranger will be perfect, but it will be a lot better than the previous ranger, and since it was designed with some fan input, people won't complain as much about it.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, posters don't always complain because they're jerks. They complain if they buy a book that isn't any good - this is why some of the "splatbooks" have a good reputation and some of the "splatbooks" have a bad reputation. They complain if a feat is ruining their campaign, or if a spell is broken and is interfering with the <em>fun</em> in their game.</p><p></p><p>Finally, if WotC responded more often to it's fans, I don't think they would get many complaints. There's little point of putting compliments on the boards if you don't think it will do any good. I was surprised by the announcement of 3.5e - they were listening to the complaints, but never once responded to them. I think they would have gotten more focused, less angry responses if they had announced 3.5e a lot earlier.</p><p></p><p>PS what does IOW mean?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 847075, member: 1165"] Fixing it is pretty easy. Like the monk, WotC gave out abilities that weren't always flavorful, but more importantly gave no choices in the matter. WotC and ranger players will [i]never[/i] agree on what traits a ranger should have, so WotC shouldn't try to assign them. All they have to do is give out some kind of "slot" and say "here, fill it with what you want." Since they don't want to step on the fighter's toes, I guess that means those slots won't be "combat feats". Maybe something to do with the wilderness... at least every ranger has that in common. :) You may be sure about the first sentence, but can you be sure about the second sentence? Most of the DMs I know use some kind of alt ranger, precisely because they're not satisfied with it. Listen to the Ed Stark interview - complaining did some good. Stark said that they changed the ranger precisely because of the complaints. He said that people wanted someone skilled, a woodsman, Aragorn, which was not represented by the 3.0 ranger. I doubt the 3.5 ranger will be perfect, but it will be a lot better than the previous ranger, and since it was designed with some fan input, people won't complain as much about it. Furthermore, posters don't always complain because they're jerks. They complain if they buy a book that isn't any good - this is why some of the "splatbooks" have a good reputation and some of the "splatbooks" have a bad reputation. They complain if a feat is ruining their campaign, or if a spell is broken and is interfering with the [i]fun[/i] in their game. Finally, if WotC responded more often to it's fans, I don't think they would get many complaints. There's little point of putting compliments on the boards if you don't think it will do any good. I was surprised by the announcement of 3.5e - they were listening to the complaints, but never once responded to them. I think they would have gotten more focused, less angry responses if they had announced 3.5e a lot earlier. PS what does IOW mean? [/QUOTE]
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