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<blockquote data-quote="MadBlue" data-source="post: 847549" data-attributes="member: 7552">Well, Fighters are pretty versatile. A Fighter with Dodge-related Feats is a really good hit-and-run combatant and a Fighter with ranged weapon-related Feats and Weapon Specialization is the ultimate ranged combatant. But I agree that we'll have to see the whole 1-20 package. It's pretty clear that a 1st level 3.5 Ranger isn't going to be quite the combatant he is in 3.0, though. He loses 2 hp and TWF and gains 8sp and Wild Empathy. Less combat effective, but more effective outside of combat - which seems like an even trade as far as abilities go, but it's going to change the way those who like to play Rangers now think about their tactics. After feeling that a Ranger's viability in melee at 1st level has been &quot;nerfed&quot;, I wonder how many Ranger players will actually go with TWF over Archery at 2nd level. MadBlue</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MadBlue, post: 847549, member: 7552"] [B] Well, Fighters are pretty versatile. A Fighter with Dodge-related Feats is a really good hit-and-run combatant and a Fighter with ranged weapon-related Feats and Weapon Specialization is the [i]ultimate[/i] ranged combatant. But I agree that we'll have to see the whole 1-20 package. It's pretty clear that a 1st level 3.5 Ranger isn't going to be quite the combatant he is in 3.0, though. He loses 2 hp and TWF and gains 8sp and Wild Empathy. Less combat effective, but more effective outside of combat - which seems like an even trade as far as abilities go, but it's going to change the way those who like to play Rangers now think about their tactics. After feeling that a Ranger's viability in melee at 1st level has been "nerfed", I wonder how many Ranger players will actually go with TWF over Archery at 2nd level. MadBlue[/b] [/QUOTE]

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