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<blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 847698" data-attributes="member: 5100">I'm not looking at the Ranger class in terms of balance.&nbsp; I care about balance, but it's secondary to flavor.Despite what the math says, my experience was always that the 1E Ranger had more HP than Fighters -- probably because Rangers always had Con as their highest stat while Fighters had Strength.&nbsp; IMHO, Rangers should slightly tougher than Fighters.&nbsp; Not enough to warrant an larger HD or anything, but enough for me to be strongly against any reduction to the HD, regardless of the balancing factors.Well, not Joshua, but I did pipe up in agreement.My statement was meant to imply that I've heard enough things about the 3.5 Ranger that I dislike (everything with the exception of the bump in skills) that I'm reasonably confident that it's going to be unusable to me.&nbsp; I wash my hands of the matter and have resolved that I'm going to have to do up my own house variant.I don't particularly want to house rule.&nbsp; I like the ease of being able to toss the book at players (old or new) and saying &quot;These are the rules we're using.&quot;Edit: fixed my really bad usage of tags.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mercule, post: 847698, member: 5100"] I'm not looking at the Ranger class in terms of balance. I care about balance, but it's secondary to flavor. Despite what the math says, my experience was always that the 1E Ranger had more HP than Fighters -- probably because Rangers always had Con as their highest stat while Fighters had Strength. IMHO, Rangers should slightly tougher than Fighters. Not enough to warrant an larger HD or anything, but enough for me to be strongly against any reduction to the HD, regardless of the balancing factors. Well, not Joshua, but I did pipe up in agreement. My statement was meant to imply that I've heard enough things about the 3.5 Ranger that I dislike (everything with the exception of the bump in skills) that I'm reasonably confident that it's going to be unusable to me. I wash my hands of the matter and have resolved that I'm going to have to do up my own house variant. I don't particularly want to house rule. I like the ease of being able to toss the book at players (old or new) and saying "These are the rules we're using." [I]Edit: fixed my really bad usage of tags.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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