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<blockquote data-quote="boschdevil" data-source="post: 859776" data-attributes="member: 10221">Well, I do admit that I used the 3rd edition point buy because I couldn't think of another system off-hand that one could use for attribute point equivalency.&nbsp;&nbsp; I only meant it as a tool to try to have equitable ability comparison for 1st edition ranger and fighter.However, let me use one other item that has been around since the beginning of D&amp;D and far before it - probability and statistics.Let start with some terms with their descriptions:minimum ranger: Abilities are 13 for strength and intelligence, 14 for wisdom and constitution, 8 for dexterity and charisma.buff fighter:&nbsp; Abilities are 15 for strength, 18 for constitution, and 8 for dexterity, charisma, intelligence, and wisdom.buff ranger:&nbsp; Abilities are 15 for strength, 18 for constitution, 13 for intelligence, 14 for wisdom, and 8 for dexterity and charisma.Now, for first edition there was two methods for rolling attributes: roll 3d6 and roll 4d6 keep the 3 highest.The following are the probabilities of rolling at least the attributes noted for the term using the rolling methods employed:Roll 3d6:Minimum ranger -&gt; 1 in 64.18Buff fighter -&gt; 1 in 66.16Buff ranger -&gt; 1 in 199.66Roll 4d6, keep highest 3:Minimum ranger -&gt; 1 in 15.98Buff fighter -&gt; 1 in 3.39Buff ranger -&gt; 1 in 26.93So the moral of the story is though a buff ranger would be tougher than a buff fighter, the fighter is still tougher than the ranger because the probability of getting the abilities for a buff ranger is far less than getting the abilities of a buff fighter.&nbsp; In fact, the probability of getting the abilities for a buff fighter is around the same to better than being able to get the abilities required for a minimum fighter.&nbsp; And I didn't even include the fact that the buff fighter qualified for experience points bonus, while the rangers here in question did not.If you want a copy the work for how I got my results, I can put it in Word format and send it to you.&nbsp; Just let me know.Take care.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="boschdevil, post: 859776, member: 10221"] Well, I do admit that I used the 3rd edition point buy because I couldn't think of another system off-hand that one could use for attribute point equivalency. I only meant it as a tool to try to have equitable ability comparison for 1st edition ranger and fighter. However, let me use one other item that has been around since the beginning of D&D and far before it - probability and statistics. Let start with some terms with their descriptions: minimum ranger: Abilities are 13 for strength and intelligence, 14 for wisdom and constitution, 8 for dexterity and charisma. buff fighter: Abilities are 15 for strength, 18 for constitution, and 8 for dexterity, charisma, intelligence, and wisdom. buff ranger: Abilities are 15 for strength, 18 for constitution, 13 for intelligence, 14 for wisdom, and 8 for dexterity and charisma. Now, for first edition there was two methods for rolling attributes: roll 3d6 and roll 4d6 keep the 3 highest. The following are the probabilities of rolling at least the attributes noted for the term using the rolling methods employed: Roll 3d6: Minimum ranger -> 1 in 64.18 Buff fighter -> 1 in 66.16 Buff ranger -> 1 in 199.66 Roll 4d6, keep highest 3: Minimum ranger -> 1 in 15.98 Buff fighter -> 1 in 3.39 Buff ranger -> 1 in 26.93 So the moral of the story is though a buff ranger would be tougher than a buff fighter, the fighter is still tougher than the ranger because the probability of getting the abilities for a buff ranger is far less than getting the abilities of a buff fighter. In fact, the probability of getting the abilities for a buff fighter is around the same to better than being able to get the abilities required for a minimum fighter. And I didn't even include the fact that the buff fighter qualified for experience points bonus, while the rangers here in question did not. If you want a copy the work for how I got my results, I can put it in Word format and send it to you. Just let me know. Take care. [/QUOTE]

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