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Message: <blockquote data-quote="xiphumor" data-source="post: 8770146" data-attributes="member: 7033055">So I want to start by saying I’m not usually an advocate for new classes per se. I’d much rather see an archetype that makes an existing class more versatile than a new class on most occasions. However, when it becomes clear that none of the existing classes adequately cover a character concept, I’m all on board. So far, I think all of the new classes in A5e, both present and promised (looks at Scientist and Psion) meet this criteria.One way I like to identify potential gaps is by looking at saving throw combinations. For anyone who doesn’t know, each class gets one common save (DEX/CON/WIS) and one uncommon save (STR/INT/CHA). A5e changed around some of the saves for some of the classes from O5e, so here’s how things currently stand:<table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td><td>DEX</td><td>CON</td><td>WIS</td></tr><tr><td>STR</td><td>Adept, Ranger</td><td>Berserker, Fighter</td><td>Druid</td></tr><tr><td>INT</td><td>Savant, Rogue</td><td>Artificer, Psion**</td><td>Cleric*, Scientist,** Warlock, Wizard</td></tr><tr><td>CHA</td><td>Bard</td><td>Sorcerer</td><td>Cleric,* Herald, Marshal</td></tr></table>*Cleric has a choice between INT or CHA**Non-confirmed.Pleasingly, there’s at least one example for each combination, but there are three examples with only one class example, either confirmed or in playtest: DEX/CHA, CON/CHA, and WIS/STR.I’d love to see where people think something genuinely new could be added.One place that stands out to me is the CON/CHA combination. Sorcerer’s draw their spell-casting ability from their own, internal source of power, but what about non-spellcasters with inherent abilities? Characters that blur the line between person and monster. Right now, such characters are best represented by transformational feats, but I think there’s space to have a class centered around the idea. (I could also see this being WIS/STR)</blockquote>

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