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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fenmarel" data-source="post: 2559249">I just dropped by to read some posts and thought I would reply to this one after reading through it.Seminars wouldn't help hardly anything at all.  I went to a couple of the seminars and the ones that were there were for the most part were the "experienced" roleplayers.  The ratio of 'older' players to newer players was close to 7-1.  Now after the seminar I saw that only one of the newer players was taking what was was said to heart AND that six of the 'experienced' players were doing the 'bad' things that were discussed.  Alot of the players both new and old have the mindset that they know what they are doing and don't need to be told or reminded. Some of us though have gotten disgusted with trying to help either individual players or the site as a whole.  I've seen too many instances were what was done to help the site or certain players has been destroyed by actions of other players and WizO's as well.  As in all other things people must come to grips with the fact that nothing else can be done, that they are fighting a losing battle.  With the combination of the newer players not looking into what they are getting themself into by rping online and the 'experienced' rpers shoving idiotic and moronic views down the throats of impressionable people the site will continue to run as it is.  What I mean by that is the same problems that are around now will continue to be around say ten years from now.  There will always be those that will flame others for not following the GUIDELINES of Dungeons and Dragons(yes even from the beginning of the game it was stated they are guidelines and please no Gary Gigax misquotes I hate those with a passion) even though this is a freeform site.  There will be those that will continue to accuse people of being a snert, twink, powergamer or what have you for playing what ever character concept they have before actually WATCHING the players interact(I know watching is too hard, you see celestial, fiend, lich, half-dragon, or what ever and they are automatically in the wrong) with other characters.  There will continue to be the elitists that will bad mouth certain players and harass those that interact with them on their IM's so they don't have to worry about WizO involvement.  There will also be the ones that are rolling their eyes now saying that this stuff doesn't go on here and will continue to look at the world through blind eyes and deaf ears unless it directly involves them.If you roleplay table top look at this site like a gaming group.  Gaming groups break up for what ever reason all the time.  The same goes with all kinds of groups.  Don't whine because people are leaving for better things but be happy that if they were miserable here they didn't stick around to make others miserable as well.  Play with what you have and be happy that you are fortunate enough to own or have access to a computer when many people would love to just have the money it takes for a computer or the monthly charge for internet service.Jason</blockquote>

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