Converting Al-Qadim and Oriental Adventures creatures

[Shade]

Dire tiger's are quite a bit tougher.

Dire Lion :: d20srd.org
Dire Tiger :: d20srd.org

So maybe 1d2 dire lions or 1 dire tiger at the end stage, or drop dire tiger altogether?

 

[demiurge1138]

1d2 dire lions is fine by me.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

They physically attack with their claws and bite and can leap as far as 60'.

Borrow the leap ability of the thri-kreen?

Sabu lords speak the languages of all cats as well as Midani.

Speak with animals (felines only) at will?

Skills: 33 (Dire lions have Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Spot)
Intimidate also seems appropriate.

Feats: 3 (dire lions have Alertness, Run, Weapon Focus (claw))
I could see making Alertness a bonus feat, due to their "incredibly keen" senses, and adding Multiattack.

 

[demiurge1138]

Drop Alertness and give them a +4 racial bonus to Spot and Listen. Agreed to the leap ability and the class skills you listed. Multiattack, Improved Initiative and Power Attack/Combat Expertise would be good feats (although Combat Expertise would require bumping Int to 13).

Hm. Looking at the fact that these guys only have 8 HD, greater shout once every 1d4 rounds might be too much. Should we dial back the sonic damage to 5d6?

 

[Shade]

I'm fine with dialing back the damage.

I think I prefer Power Attack to Combat Expertise for 'em, so they can make impressive displays against uppity lions.

Also, I realize we never assigned a Cha score. I'm thinking fairly decent...say, 16?

 

[demiurge1138]

16 sounds perfectly reasonable.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

 

[demiurge1138]

Hm. Perhaps Iron Will instead of Power Attack? That Will save is a pretty big weak spot. Aside for that, done-ish? We need a CR... 8? It's about equivalent to an androsphinx without its spellcasting, which should be a CR drop.

 

[Cleon]

Dire tiger's are quite a bit tougher.

Dire Lion :: d20srd.org
Dire Tiger :: d20srd.org

So maybe 1d2 dire lions or 1 dire tiger at the end stage, or drop dire tiger altogether?

Gah, I must be going daft. For some reason I was thinking the dire lion wasn't in the SRD.

A dire lion isn't that much tougher than a regular tiger, but I agree the dire tiger is a lot nastier. Indeed, it's got twice the HD of the Sabu Lord itself, so it doesn't seem plausible that Call of the Pride would work on it.

I propose we drop the Dire Tiger altogether, and have one dire lion as the final summons.

 

[Cleon]

Hm. Perhaps Iron Will instead of Power Attack? That Will save is a pretty big weak spot. Aside for that, done-ish? We need a CR... 8? It's about equivalent to an androsphinx without its spellcasting, which should be a CR drop.

How about giving them a "Dire Beast" special quality so they have all good saving throws like a dire animal?

We wouldn't want the Dire Lion to have a better Will save than it does, methinks.

As for Skills & Feats, I like the +4 racial bonus on Hide, Listen, MS & Spot, and am tempted to add the same generous racial bonus to Intimidate.

Apart from that, Power Attack, Improved Initiative and Multiattack for the feats, and maybe toss in Run as a bonus feat, so it can keep up with its pride.