Converting Al-Qadim and Oriental Adventures creatures

[freyar]

Ok then let's go with SLA's with bonuses for Perform.

Ok, so the question is whether we want to have the Perform check result just be the DC (if higher than usual) or whether reaching certain DCs for Perform boost the spell DCs by a certain amount (say +1 at Perform DC 20, etc).

Shade, can you add those Segarran class skills?

 

[demiurge1138]

I prefer if they make a DC X Perform check, it boosts the DC by 1. DC X + something (+5? +10?), the DC goes up again. Like we did for those dancing fey I could never spell.

 

[freyar]

Oh, those crazy callicantzari! Yeah. Their Perform skill ranks are +8 with +5 from Cha. This will probably work with one zin making the check and the others doing Aid Another actions, so add another few +2. So, how hard should it be to get a bonus? I'm thinking DC 20 to get +1 to spell DC, with an additional +1 for every extra +5 on the Perform check. This way they'll usually get +1 and quite often +2. How's that sound? Or should we start at DC 25?

 

[demiurge1138]

I'm thinking start at 20, but every 10 thereafter. Makes it easy to get +1, rare for +2.

 

[freyar]

That works for me if everyone else likes it. That way the larger groups are reasonably likely to get +2, but it's harder for the smaller choirs. Sure.

 

[Shade]

Shade, can you add those Segarran class skills?

Done.

I fear I've lost track of the special SLA discussion...anyone care to summarize?

 

[freyar]

Here's the original:

Although each individual zin possesses a bardic voice, when they play and sing together as a band, their music takes on a supernatural quality that it did not possess before. In order for this eldritch music to be effective, the zin must be within 10 feet of one another. Spells .cast. by a band are extremely difficult to resist (-1 on saves per zin present) and depend upon the number of zin in the band (per the following table).

Duo: hold person or suggestion
Trio: charm monster or emotion
Quartet: Leomund's lamentable belaborment or chaos
Quintet: mass suggestion or charm plants
Sextet: demand or Otto.s irresistible dance

The spell “repertoire” is cumulative (i.e., a quartet knows the spells of a trio and duo). A zin band can collectively cast any spell from their repertoire, once per round, at a level equal to three times the number of zin present.

We were thinking of
Duo: hold person or suggestion
Trio: charm monster or emotion
Quartet: crushing despair or confusion
Quintet: mass suggestion or dominate person
Sextet: demand or Otto's irresistible dance
(repertoire cumulative). We were also thinking that a DC 20 Perform check grants +1 to the save DC, with an additional +1 for every 10 that the Perform check beats DC 20.

 

[Shade]

Sounds great!

 

[freyar]

Here's an attempt at a write-up. I just realized that emotion doesn't exist in the SRD as a spell. Calm emotions is a possibility, but that seems too weak for the trio. I put in fear as a place holder, since that was one possible effect of the old emotion spell, but rage is another possibility. Check the question marks for what you think.

Choral Casting (Sp): A choir of 2 to 6 zin gain a number of spell-like abilities, which they can cast at will. No two of the participating zin may be farther apart than 10 ft(?). The spell-like abilities depend on the number of zin, and the repertoire is cumulative (a quartet can use the spell-like abilities of a duet and trio as well, for example). The repertoires are as follows:
Duo: hold person, suggestion
Trio: charm monster, fear
Quartet: crushing despair, confusion
Quintet: mass suggestion, dominate person
Sextet: demand, irresistible dance
The save DCs of these Sp abilities are based on the highest individual Charisma among the participating zin. In addition, one zin of the choir may make a Perform check to increase the DC (the other zin in the choir may use Aid Another actions to assist this check). If the Perform check exceeds DC 20, the save DC of the Sp ability increases by +1. The Sp ability save DC also increases by an additional +1 for each 10 that the Perform check exceeds DC 20 (a total of +2 at 30, etc). The caster level is half the total HD of the zin choir (?).

 

[demiurge1138]

Emotion got split into rage, good hope and crushing despair.