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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6169891" data-attributes="member: 57383">Well the original description makes no mention of attackers being able  to target a worn feather garment, so I didn't see the need to invent an  additional vulnerability. Especially as the feather garment has so few  HPs that making it susceptible to damage while worn would significantly increases the Bird Maidens vulnerability.You might be able to persuade me that some of the rules of a 3E symbiont apply:Symbiont Traits: While attached to a host, a symbiont acts on its host's turn each round, regardless of its own initiative modifier. It is not flat-footed unless its host is, and it is aware of any danger its host is aware of. If clearly visible, opponents can attack the symbiont instead of the host creature. This works the same way as attacking an object. The symbiont gains the benefit of the host's Dexterity modifier to AC instead of its own, and gains any deflection bonus to AC the host has as well. Its own size modifier and natural armor bonus apply. Attacking a symbiont instead of its host provokes an attack of opportunity from the host.A symbiont never takes damage from attacks directed at the host. Like a worn magic item, a symbiont is usually unaffected by spells that damage the host, but if the host rolls a 1 on its saving throw, the symbiont is one of the "items" that can be affected by the spell. A symbiont uses its host's base saving throw bonuses if they are better than its own.Any spell the host creature casts on itself automatically also affects the symbiont. Additionally, the host may cast a spell with a target of "You" on the symbiont instead of on itself. The symbiont may do likewise with any spell or spell-like ability it uses. The host and symbiont can share spells even if the spells normally do not affect creatures of the host's or the symbiont's type. Spells targeted on the host by another spellcaster do not affect the symbiont, and vice versa.Care to try convincing me?Come to think of it, the previous "skin wearer" shapeshifters we've done - the Loup du Noir and Silkie - did not include any rules about how or whether the skin could be targeted/damaged while worn, so we could just leave it out in the same manner.</blockquote>

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