Converting Epic Level Creatures

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Then the swords don't necessarily have any sundering powers. But we could give Lung Jua:

Fouler of Weapons (Su): Lung Jua gains a +4 bonus on any opposed attack roll made to sunder an item. Any weapon that Lung Jua deals damage to but is not destroyed becomes warped and corrupted, imposing a -3 penalty on all attack rolls made with that weapon until repaired by a successful Craft check or make whole.

I still think we should also give him a rend armor ability, ala the bebilith.

Demiurge out.
 

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I think the swords are shaping up well. I like the fouler of weapons ability, too. Rend armor is also fine with me.
 

Updated.

Here's a stab at the Dragon Claws:

Dragon Claws: Lung Jua wields a pair of artifacts known as the Dragon Claws. These +4 keen adamantine katanas. The wielder of the Dragon Claws may command the artifacts to create lesser versions of themselves. This lesser pair is smaller and deals less damage (treat as +4 keen adamantine longswords). The wielder of the Dragon Claws can see through the eyes of the bearer of any lesser blades they have spawned. Additionally, the wielder may attempt to direct the actions of the bearer of the lesser weapons as if using a dominate monster spell (Will DC X negates). Finally, the wielder of the originals may leech hit points from any bearer of lesser blades it spawns. The bearer can drain up to X hit points, and cannot drain more than the victim's current hit point total.
 

I like that. I'd suggest 10 hp per bearer per day, just by fiat.

Does he need more special abilities?
 

I don't think so. Shall we move on to feats and skills?

Skills: 13 at 29 ranks
Balance, Bluff, Concentration, Escape Artist, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (religion), Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Move Silently, Sense Motive, Spot, Tumble

Feats: 9 (2 can be epic);
We already mentioned Epic Sunder, Improved Sunder, Multiweapon Fighting, and Weapon Finesse.

Epic Sunder requires Epic Prowess as a prereq, so that takes care of the two epic feats.
 

Multi-weapon fighting? Doesn't he only have two arms and two swords?

His feats should include Combat Expertise. He strikes me as a tricky sort of fighter. If we wanted to soak up all his feats, we could also give him the Dodge chain and Whirlwind Attack. If not, Improved Trip would be good, as would the traditional Power Attack + Improved Bull's Rush + Awesome Blow set.

Demiurge out.
 

demiurge1138 said:
Multi-weapon fighting? Doesn't he only have two arms and two swords?

Four arms. Two swords. I assumed he was wielding each blade with two hands on the attack lines. Alternatively, we could have him wield each with one hand and allow two claw attacks with them.

Should Exotic Weapon Proficiency (bastard sword/katana) be a bonus feat?
 

Give him two-weapon fighting and say in a Feats line that Lung Jua can fight without penalty with two weapons of any size, as long as he uses two arms to stabilize them.

I think we should give him the option of four claws (or four slams, since he seems to be more monkish) in his attack line, though.

Demiurge out.
 

Sounds good. Updated.

I gave him a few more feats in the TWF chain so he'd get more attacks with the Dragon Claws, and use a few of the feats suggested above.

Natural armor bonus? His AC currently stands at 34 without natural armor.

Challenge Rating: 22? (He's about on par with the FC version of Graz'zt and Orcus)

Treasure: Dragon Claws only? (His original entry said "nil")

Lung Jua is a repulsive-looking spirit, fat and four-armed, with the head of a dragon, and scales marring most of his body. He stands about half a head shorter than a man

Lung Jua is x feet tall and weighs x pounds.

Lung Jua speaks x.
 

Lung Jua speaks Infernal, Abyssal, Celestial, Draconic and Common.

I say we give him some natural armor. After all, he's covered in scales.

Demiurge out.
 

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