Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
Hosted Forums
Creature Catalog Forums
General Monster Talk
Converting Epic Level Creatures
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5444849" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Yes it needs a <s>bit</s> lot of work, that was just the rough outline. I knew the element creature template isn't SRD, which is why I reluctantly left out any mention of it.</p><p></p><p>Here's a more detailed revision, with the addition of "elemental construction":<p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Elemental Transubstantiation (Su):</strong> Once per day an elemaster can transubstantiate all material objects and corporeal creatures in an area of up to 100 5-ft. squares that is within a range of 1000 ft. The affected area can be any shape. The elemaster can affect an area of any shape it wishes and exclude creatures within the affected area from the transubstantiation effect. All affected targets must succeed at a DC X Fort? or be transformed into elemental substances, the effects depend on the elemaster's intentions. Creatures that have the same elemental type as the elemaster are not affected by its transubstantiation; targets with no material substance are also unaffected, such as incorporeal creatures or objects of force such as an <em>unseen servant</em>.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">If the elemaster wishes destruction, the target will instantly evaporate/crumble into gravel/burn to ashes/melt into puddles [<span style="color: Red">delete as appropriate</span>]. The transformed residue of creatures destroyed by elemental transubstantiation are not the remains of a living creature and can not be used for <em>raise dead</em> or <em>resurrection</em> spells. A <em>miracle</em>, <em>true resurrection</em> or <em>wish</em> spell is necessary to bring back to life a creature destroyed by this transformation.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Alternatively, the elemaster can transform material objects or creatures instead of destroying them, as follows: </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Transformed creatures become beings of elemental substance. Their type changes to elemental (if their intelligence is 2 or less) or outsider (if their intelligence is 3 or higher) and they gain the same subtype as the elemaster. They also gain a fly (perfect)/burrow/swim [<span style="color: Red">delete as appropriate</span>] speed equal to their fastest speed. Note that these transformed creatures are now susceptible to the elemasters' master elemental power (see below).</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Transformed objects in the area can be used to form a structure of any shape the elemaster desires, the structure resembles a <em>permanent solid fog</em> surrounded by a <em>permanent </em><em>wind wall</em>/a double strength <em>wall of iron</em>/a <em>permanent </em><em>solid fog</em> surrounded by a <em>permanent </em><em>wall of fire</em>/a double strength and double damage <em>permanent wall of ice</em> [<span style="color: Red">delete as appropriate</span>], and have Y hp per 5-ft. square. Treat this structure as a permanent magic item, it is not affected by <em>dispel magic</em> or <em>break enchantment</em> and is immune to effects of the elemaster's type. It takes a mage's disjunction spell or more powerful abjuration to destroy the structure (which is CL 84 and has a +Y on all its saves).</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p></p><p>What do you have against summoning a Primal or two? They are lower tier than the Elemaster. Is the problem the big jump in HD/size between the two?</p><p></p><p>The elemental swarm spell allows the summoning of 2d4 Large, 1d4 Huge and 1 Greater Elemental, so I fancied a similar range of sizes for the "super-summon". Something like 2d4 Elder elementals / 1d4 Advanced (48HD) Elder elementals or monoliths / 1 Primal elemental would seem to fit nicely.</p><p></p><p>Alternatively the top rung could be summoning another elemaster with the note like "an elemaster will only summon another elemaster under dire circumstances, since it becomes indebted to the other elemaster."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5444849, member: 57383"] Yes it needs a [S]bit[/S] lot of work, that was just the rough outline. I knew the element creature template isn't SRD, which is why I reluctantly left out any mention of it. Here's a more detailed revision, with the addition of "elemental construction":[INDENT][B]Elemental Transubstantiation (Su):[/B] Once per day an elemaster can transubstantiate all material objects and corporeal creatures in an area of up to 100 5-ft. squares that is within a range of 1000 ft. The affected area can be any shape. The elemaster can affect an area of any shape it wishes and exclude creatures within the affected area from the transubstantiation effect. All affected targets must succeed at a DC X Fort? or be transformed into elemental substances, the effects depend on the elemaster's intentions. Creatures that have the same elemental type as the elemaster are not affected by its transubstantiation; targets with no material substance are also unaffected, such as incorporeal creatures or objects of force such as an [I]unseen servant[/I]. If the elemaster wishes destruction, the target will instantly evaporate/crumble into gravel/burn to ashes/melt into puddles [[COLOR=Red]delete as appropriate[/COLOR]]. The transformed residue of creatures destroyed by elemental transubstantiation are not the remains of a living creature and can not be used for [I]raise dead[/I] or [I]resurrection[/I] spells. A [I]miracle[/I], [I]true resurrection[/I] or [I]wish[/I] spell is necessary to bring back to life a creature destroyed by this transformation. Alternatively, the elemaster can transform material objects or creatures instead of destroying them, as follows: Transformed creatures become beings of elemental substance. Their type changes to elemental (if their intelligence is 2 or less) or outsider (if their intelligence is 3 or higher) and they gain the same subtype as the elemaster. They also gain a fly (perfect)/burrow/swim [[COLOR=Red]delete as appropriate[/COLOR]] speed equal to their fastest speed. Note that these transformed creatures are now susceptible to the elemasters' master elemental power (see below). Transformed objects in the area can be used to form a structure of any shape the elemaster desires, the structure resembles a [I]permanent solid fog[/I] surrounded by a [I]permanent [/I][I]wind wall[/I]/a double strength [I]wall of iron[/I]/a [I]permanent [/I][I]solid fog[/I] surrounded by a [I]permanent [/I][I]wall of fire[/I]/a double strength and double damage [I]permanent wall of ice[/I] [[COLOR=Red]delete as appropriate[/COLOR]], and have Y hp per 5-ft. square. Treat this structure as a permanent magic item, it is not affected by [I]dispel magic[/I] or [I]break enchantment[/I] and is immune to effects of the elemaster's type. It takes a mage's disjunction spell or more powerful abjuration to destroy the structure (which is CL 84 and has a +Y on all its saves). [/INDENT] What do you have against summoning a Primal or two? They are lower tier than the Elemaster. Is the problem the big jump in HD/size between the two? The elemental swarm spell allows the summoning of 2d4 Large, 1d4 Huge and 1 Greater Elemental, so I fancied a similar range of sizes for the "super-summon". Something like 2d4 Elder elementals / 1d4 Advanced (48HD) Elder elementals or monoliths / 1 Primal elemental would seem to fit nicely. Alternatively the top rung could be summoning another elemaster with the note like "an elemaster will only summon another elemaster under dire circumstances, since it becomes indebted to the other elemaster." [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
Hosted Forums
Creature Catalog Forums
General Monster Talk
Converting Epic Level Creatures
Top