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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6285505" data-attributes="member: 57383">Which do you prefer? I'm leaning towards CR 22.How about...An immense giant garbed in a yellow robe, fully six times taller than a human. Its bulbous face is a nightmarish combination of a giant snail and a malevolent male human, topped with a crown of four eyestalks. In one hand it hefts a massive black mace.Actually, I'd like to add a down-powered &quot;Aspect of Ythog-Nthlei&quot;. The Temple of Poseidon adventure is meant for a party of seven to ten characters with at least 70 total levels (e.g. seven 10th level characters or better).The creature we've statted up would annihilate such a party.&nbsp;However, considering the next most dangerous encounter in the adventure is with two Sentinel Eidolons, which is a EL 16 encounter I think it'd be better to design the lower powered version to be suitable as an &quot;end of level&quot; boss for party around 15th level.&nbsp;I'm thinking such a weaker &quot;Aspect&quot; would be smaller (24 foot tall and Huge) and have, say, 5 fewer Hit Dice, -6 to Str, Con, Int, Wis and Cha, plus an AC lowered to 32 (by cutting three off its deflection and insight bonuses and six off its natural armour). I'd also cut the Aura of Desecration power, remove the gate and dispel magic Spell-Like Abilities and have a 1d10 round duration Slave Venom. It'd need some jiggling of the skill points and would have two fewer&nbsp; feats - for those I'd cut the Epic Reflexes and Quicken SLA.I guesstimate that would put the aspect version somewhere around Challenge Rating 18, which seems about right.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6285505, member: 57383"] Which do you prefer? I'm leaning towards CR 22. How about... [I]An immense giant garbed in a yellow robe, fully six times taller than a human. Its bulbous face is a nightmarish combination of a giant snail and a malevolent male human, topped with a crown of four eyestalks. In one hand it hefts a massive black mace.[/I] Actually, I'd like to add a down-powered "Aspect of Ythog-Nthlei". The [I]Temple of Poseidon[/I] adventure is meant for a party of seven to ten characters with at least 70 total levels (e.g. seven 10th level characters or better). The creature we've statted up would annihilate such a party. However, considering the next most dangerous encounter in the adventure is with two Sentinel Eidolons, which is a EL 16 encounter I think it'd be better to design the lower powered version to be suitable as an "end of level" boss for party around 15th level. I'm thinking such a weaker "Aspect" would be smaller (24 foot tall and Huge) and have, say, 5 fewer Hit Dice, -6 to Str, Con, Int, Wis and Cha, plus an AC lowered to 32 (by cutting three off its deflection and insight bonuses and six off its natural armour). I'd also cut the Aura of Desecration power, remove the [I]gate[/I] and [I]dispel magic[/I] Spell-Like Abilities and have a 1d10 round duration Slave Venom. It'd need some jiggling of the skill points and would have two fewer feats - for those I'd cut the Epic Reflexes and Quicken SLA. I guesstimate that would put the aspect version somewhere around Challenge Rating 18, which seems about right. [/QUOTE]

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