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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6534313" data-attributes="member: 57383">Well let's compare his characteristics to the Titans in AD&D's Deities & Demigods and our CC conversions. For convenience and compactness I'll be using one-or-two letter acronyms for the AD&D stats and three-letter for the 3E ones (e.g. CH for AD&D Charisma, Cha for 3E Charisma).AndromidusS: 25, I: 24, W: 24, D: 19, C: 20, CH: 23"Lesser" TitansS: 15-25, I: 15-25, W: 15-25, D: 15-25, C: 15-25, CH: 15CC: Str 47, Dex 20, Con 43, Int 27, Wis 28, Cha 28The Greater Titans have:Atlas, Titan of Strength:S: 25 (+7, +14) I: 12 W: 12 D: 20 C: 23 CH: 20CC: Str 50, Dex 20, Con 44, Int 27, Wis 30, Cha 28Coeus, Titan of Fear:S: 24 (+ 6, + 12) I: 20 W: 14 D: 20 C: 23 CH: -4CC: Str 47, Dex 20, Con 44, Int 35, Wis 32, Cha 26Crius, Titan of Weight: S: 25 (+7, +14) I: 23 W: 19 D: 23 C: 23 CH: 23CC: Str 48, Dex 23, Con 44, Int 38, Wis 37, Cha 31Epimethius, Titan of Afterthought:S: 25 (+7, +14) 1:21 W: 19 D: 23 C: 22 CH: 22CC: Str 48, Dex 23, Con 43, Int 34, Wis 37, Cha 30Kronos, King of the Titans:S: 25 (+7, +14) I: 25 W: 14 D: 25 C: 25 CH: 25CC: Str 48 Dex 30 Con 46 Int 40 Wis 32 Cha 32Oceanus, Titan of the Sea:S: 25 (+7, +14) I: 24 W: 10 D: 24 C: 25 CH: 20CC: Str 48 Dex 24 Con 46 Int 40 Wis 28 Cha 28Promethius, Titan of Forethought:S: 24 (+6, + 12) I: 25 W: 20 D: 24 C: 24 CH: 25CC: Str 47 Dex 24 Con 45 Int 40 Wis 38 Cha 35So his Strength 25 is as high as Lesser and Greater Titans go - indeed, 25 is the maximum possible in AD&D - and is the same as Atlas, Crius, Epimethius, Kronos and Oceanus. I'd give him Str 48, the same as the last five of those.His Intelligence 24 is near-maximum, only Kronos and Prometheus are higher at the max of 25. Those both have Int 40 in the CC, so I'm thinking Int 39 so he's between the CC Epimethius's Int 38 and Kronos or Prometheus (since the AD&D Epimethius had Int 23).His Wisdom 24 is higher than any of the other Greater Titans that are actually statted out and is also close to the Titan maximum. I'm inclined to go for Wis 38-39, so its in the same rung as his Intelligence.His Charisma 23 is 8 points higher than a regular lesser Titan and only Kronos and Prometheus's CH 25 is higher. However, Crius has CH 23 too, suggesting we should give him Cha 31 like the CC Crius (or possible 30, but he's supposedly one of the most Charismatic Titans so making it lower than Crius's doesn't seem right.His Dexterity 19 and Constitution 20 are roughly average for a Lesser Titan, suggesting somewhere around the standard CC Greater Titan's Dex 20 and Con 43. I'm inclined to bump him down a point to Dex 19, since his Dexterity is worse than any of the AD&D Greater Titans, who all have D: 20 or higher. I might tweak the Con down to 42 too - he spends most of his time dreaming, so how buff can he be?So that'd make Andromidus:Abilities: Str 48, Dex 19, Con 42, Int 39, Wis 39, Cha 31What thinks thou?</blockquote>

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