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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6560102" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Okay, seems we're agreed on that.</p><p></p><p>Let's try to figure out some parameters for this power. It likely should be (Su) since the Titan can use it unconsciously - plus it'll give it a better save DC.</p><p></p><p>We need a range and/or area of effect. In the adventure the "grey mists" appear soon after the PCs enter Andromidus's temple, which should give us a minimum range. However, the place is HUGE, with the entrance 700 feet away from the throne were Andromidus is slumbering, and an "inner entrance" 500 feet from him.</p><p></p><p>That suggests a range or radius of effect of about 600 feet, although that might be a minimum.</p><p></p><p>As for the area of effect, in the adventure he creates 5 illusory "sets", some of which are pretty large.</p><p></p><p>Set A - Forest, 470 feet by 360 feet.</p><p>Set B - Underground Passages, 120 feet by 85 feet.</p><p>Set C - Open Ground, 485 by 350 feet.</p><p>Set D - Caverns, 430 by 260 feet.</p><p>Set E - Three-roomed building, 35 feet by 30 feet.</p><p></p><p>If all those sets are existing in the same space within the "gray mist" they'll easily fit within a 500 or 600 foot radius. However the sets change each time the PCs visit them as Andromidus's dream about the situation they represent changes.</p><p></p><p>That suggests he's recreating a set each time the PCs pass through it, so the minimum dream size need only be the longest dimensions of the largest set - which is 485 feet.</p><p></p><p>So a range/area of 500 feet by 500 feet would fit the observed scale.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6560102, member: 57383"] Okay, seems we're agreed on that. Let's try to figure out some parameters for this power. It likely should be (Su) since the Titan can use it unconsciously - plus it'll give it a better save DC. We need a range and/or area of effect. In the adventure the "grey mists" appear soon after the PCs enter Andromidus's temple, which should give us a minimum range. However, the place is HUGE, with the entrance 700 feet away from the throne were Andromidus is slumbering, and an "inner entrance" 500 feet from him. That suggests a range or radius of effect of about 600 feet, although that might be a minimum. As for the area of effect, in the adventure he creates 5 illusory "sets", some of which are pretty large. Set A - Forest, 470 feet by 360 feet. Set B - Underground Passages, 120 feet by 85 feet. Set C - Open Ground, 485 by 350 feet. Set D - Caverns, 430 by 260 feet. Set E - Three-roomed building, 35 feet by 30 feet. If all those sets are existing in the same space within the "gray mist" they'll easily fit within a 500 or 600 foot radius. However the sets change each time the PCs visit them as Andromidus's dream about the situation they represent changes. That suggests he's recreating a set each time the PCs pass through it, so the minimum dream size need only be the longest dimensions of the largest set - which is 485 feet. So a range/area of 500 feet by 500 feet would fit the observed scale. [/QUOTE]
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