Converting monsters from Dragon magazine
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Cleon
Legend
If we don't mind deviating from the original version, I wouldn't mind increasing Int and Cha both to 18.
As for wear skeleton, yup, I'm ready. Seems like it should grant a +5 natural armor bonus. Maybe the visceraith should only have a land speed if wearing a skeleton, too. And, finally, some skeletons grant bite or claw attacks. If that sounds right, I'll write it up.
I don;t see anything in the original text that suggests a "naked" visceraith doesn't have a land speed.
Something like:
Wear Skeleton (Ex): A visceraith can inhabit the skeleton of a humanoid or monstrous humanoid creature of its own size. While wearing a skeleton, a visceraith gains a +5 natural armour and two claw attacks (doing 1d4 damage for a Medium-sized visceraith). A skeleton-wearing visceraith can use the skeleton to wield weapons and perform other physical actions.
freyar
Extradimensional Explorer
Well, the land speed business was just because they're a mass of dangling organs without appendages. What about a compromise for a 20 ft land speed "naked" and 30 ft with a skeleton? It just makes more sense to me that they could get around better with legs. 
We also need to add the possibility of a bite attack and increase the claws to 1d6 (per the original). And add a blurb about putting on and taking off the skeleton. Here's a go at it:
Wear Skeleton (Ex): A visceraith can inhabit the skeleton of a humanoid or monstrous humanoid creature of its own size. While wearing a skeleton, a visceraith gains a +5 natural armour, a 10 ft increase in land speed, and two claw attacks (doing 1d6 damage for a Medium-sized visceraith). A skeleton-wearing visceraith can use the skeleton to wield weapons and perform other physical actions. A visceraith requires 1 minute to don a skeleton but only a full round action to remove itself.
Some visceraiths wear alternative skeletons. For example, a visceraith that uses a skull from a creature with a natural bite attack gains a bite attack (1d8 damage?).
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Let's also put this in the "spells" entry to prevent confusion:
When wearing a skeleton, a visceraith uses its skeletal limbs to perform somatic components for spells; however, a visceraith without a skeleton can still perform somatic components perfectly by manipulating its internal organs.
We also need to add the possibility of a bite attack and increase the claws to 1d6 (per the original). And add a blurb about putting on and taking off the skeleton. Here's a go at it:Wear Skeleton (Ex): A visceraith can inhabit the skeleton of a humanoid or monstrous humanoid creature of its own size. While wearing a skeleton, a visceraith gains a +5 natural armour, a 10 ft increase in land speed, and two claw attacks (doing 1d6 damage for a Medium-sized visceraith). A skeleton-wearing visceraith can use the skeleton to wield weapons and perform other physical actions. A visceraith requires 1 minute to don a skeleton but only a full round action to remove itself.
Some visceraiths wear alternative skeletons. For example, a visceraith that uses a skull from a creature with a natural bite attack gains a bite attack (1d8 damage?).
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Let's also put this in the "spells" entry to prevent confusion:
When wearing a skeleton, a visceraith uses its skeletal limbs to perform somatic components for spells; however, a visceraith without a skeleton can still perform somatic components perfectly by manipulating its internal organs.
Cleon
Legend
Well, the land speed business was just because they're a mass of dangling organs without appendages. What about a compromise for a 20 ft land speed "naked" and 30 ft with a skeleton? It just makes more sense to me that they could get around better with legs.
Wear Skeleton (Ex): A visceraith can inhabit the skeleton of a humanoid or monstrous humanoid creature of its own size. While wearing a skeleton, a visceraith gains a +5 natural armour, a 10 ft increase in land speed, and two claw attacks (doing 1d6 damage for a Medium-sized visceraith). A skeleton-wearing visceraith can use the skeleton to wield weapons and perform other physical actions. A visceraith requires 1 minute to don a skeleton but only a full round action to remove itself.
Some visceraiths wear alternative skeletons. For example, a visceraith that uses a skull from a creature with a natural bite attack gains a bite attack (1d8 damage?).
I would rather keep them with the same speed in both forms. Maybe they use their supernatural flight to augment their land speed when moving around "naked"?
Looks OK, although I'm tempted to jazz up the last bit:
When wearing a skeleton, a visceraith uses its skeletal limbs to perform somatic components for spells; however, a visceraith without a skeleton can still perform somatic components perfectly by gesturing with its viscera.
Cleon
Legend
I like the jazzing to the spells. You have a gift for description.
I just write what my gut instinct tells me to.
I think we're going to need to appeal to Shade on the movement speeds.
Looks that way. At least with three people we had a tie-breaker!
Cleon
Legend
Where did you get that idea from?
I don't see anything in the description to suggest its movement modes are limited to either "bone wearing" and "naked gut" forms, so I'm sticking to fly and land speeds for both forms.
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