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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5151355" data-attributes="member: 57383">Oh blast, I must have got confused somewhere. I was sure they didn't have poison breath.I'm starting to lean towards thinking they are worth CR10.They have a mighty good AC and DR for a creature with 12 Hit Dice, plus immunity to magic. Not to mention they could be auto-repairing by standing in a fire.I suspect they would be very hard monsters to kill.Also, why is their Trip modifier +17? It should just be a +7 bonus from Strength, were does the extra 10 points from?Oh, and their bite attack and grapple should both be +16 melee, not 15 - 9 BAB plus 7 for Strength. (I think we forgot to change the numbers after upsizing the firedog from Small)</blockquote>