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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5414724" data-attributes="member: 57383">Either works for me.It depends what fish where modelling here. If we're talking scorpion fish like Scorpaena the venom is extremely painful so deserves symbol of pain stats. Many of the species in the family (like the rockfish) don't seem so bad from the rummaging around the internet I did.So, shall we say these are &quot;true scorpionfish&quot; like the genus Scorpaena which cause agonizing pain?In that case I'd like to change the size to the scale of Scorpaena, which don't grow as big as the large rockfish referred to earlier. Looking through the fishbase website, Scorpaena species average somewhere about 10-20 centimetres long (4 to 8 inches), with the smaller ones being under 2 inches long and the largest (e.g. S. elongata, guttata, izensis, mystes, plumieri, scrofa, stephanica and sumptuosa) averaging around 25-30 cm (10-12&quot;) and reaching max lengths of about 40-50 cm (18-20&quot;).So, how about making them Diminutive with Advancement to Tiny and changing the size description to &quot;Most types of scorpionfish are very small, typically 4 to 8 inches in length and an ounce or two in weight, the largest species can grow up to 18 inches long and 5 pounds in weight&quot;?I agree. If I were left to me I'd make those all conditions AND have three grades of each. Maybe make Dazed the &quot;level 1&quot; version of Confused with Beffudled inbetween as &quot;level 2&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5414724, member: 57383"] Either works for me. It depends what fish where modelling here. If we're talking scorpion fish like [I]Scorpaena[/I] the venom is extremely painful so deserves [I]symbol of pain[/I] stats. Many of the species in the family (like the rockfish) don't seem so bad from the rummaging around the internet I did. So, shall we say these are "true scorpionfish" like the genus [I]Scorpaena[/I] which cause agonizing [I]pain[/I]? In that case I'd like to change the size to the scale of [I]Scorpaena[/I], which don't grow as big as the large rockfish referred to earlier. Looking through the fishbase website, [I]Scorpaena[/I] species average somewhere about 10-20 centimetres long (4 to 8 inches), with the smaller ones being under 2 inches long and the largest (e.g. [I]S. elongata[/I], [I]guttata[/I], [I]izensis, mystes[/I], [I]plumieri[/I], [I]scrofa[/I], [I]stephanica[/I] and [I]sumptuosa[/I]) averaging around 25-30 cm (10-12") and reaching max lengths of about 40-50 cm (18-20"). So, how about making them Diminutive with Advancement to Tiny and changing the size description to "Most types of scorpionfish are very small, typically 4 to 8 inches in length and an ounce or two in weight, the largest species can grow up to 18 inches long and 5 pounds in weight"? I agree. If I were left to me I'd make those all conditions AND have three grades of each. Maybe make Dazed the "level 1" version of Confused with Beffudled inbetween as "level 2". [/QUOTE]

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