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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5726317" data-attributes="member: 57383">Well Spot checks are penalized by distance (-1 per 10 feet) according to the SRD, so I'd just use a flat DC.At first, I was thinking of modifying the Gelatinous Cube's ability:Transparent (Ex): Gelatinous cubes are hard to see, even under ideal conditions, and it takes a DC 15 Spot check to notice one. Creatures who fail to notice a cube and walk into it are automatically engulfed. However, rereading the description some form of &quot;near-invisibility&quot; seems more appropriate. I'm thinking we should cadge some of the text from the Invisibility Special Ability and the Invisibility note in the Hide skill:Also, I think it should be an (Ex) ability rather than a (Su).In other words, I prefer the following:Transparent Body (Ex): Due to its transparent body, a windigo is very hard to see, even under ideal conditions. At distances greater than 50 feet, a windigo is invisible.&nbsp; Within 50 feet, a creature can notice the presence of an active windigo with a DC 15 Spot check. A windigo that is moving gains a +15 bonus on Hide checks, one that is immobile gains a +30 bonus to Hide checks.&nbsp; A windigo within 50 feet gains&nbsp; concealment (rather than total concealment) against attackers that notice it.&nbsp; This ability is constant, a windigo remains nearly invisible even when attacking. This transparency is an innate property of the windigo's flesh, so is not subject to the invisibility purge spell.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5726317, member: 57383"] Well Spot checks are penalized by distance (-1 per 10 feet) according to the SRD, so I'd just use a flat DC. At first, I was thinking of modifying the Gelatinous Cube's ability: Transparent (Ex): Gelatinous cubes are hard to see, even under ideal conditions, and it takes a DC 15 Spot check to notice one. Creatures who fail to notice a cube and walk into it are automatically engulfed. However, rereading the description some form of "near-invisibility" seems more appropriate. I'm thinking we should cadge some of the text from the Invisibility Special Ability and the Invisibility note in the Hide skill: Also, I think it should be an (Ex) ability rather than a (Su). In other words, I prefer the following: [B]Transparent Body (Ex):[/B] Due to its transparent body, a windigo is very hard to see, even under ideal conditions. At distances greater than 50 feet, a windigo is invisible. Within 50 feet, a creature can notice the presence of an active windigo with a DC 15 Spot check. A windigo that is moving gains a +15 bonus on Hide checks, one that is immobile gains a +30 bonus to Hide checks. A windigo within 50 feet gains concealment (rather than total concealment) against attackers that notice it. This ability is constant, a windigo remains nearly invisible even when attacking. This transparency is an innate property of the windigo's flesh, so is not subject to the [I]invisibility purge [/I]spell. [/QUOTE]

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