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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5531083" data-attributes="member: 57383">Agreed, I'd make the bonus a bit lower than a Giant Owl's though, since they have leathery wings.How about:* When in flight, winged gnashers gain a +6 bonus on Move Silently checks.Upon reflection, they don't need the higher Dex I proposed earlier assuming we give them the standard +2 to NA for increasing size to Large.I'd give them a &quot;half size&quot; increase to their ability scores, since they ain't that much bigger than a regular gnasher.That works out:Gnasher, WingedLarge Magical BeastHit Dice: 4d10+12 (34 hp)Initiative: +2Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), fly 20 ft. (clumsy)Armor Class: 15 (-1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13Base Attack/Grapple: +4/+13Attack: Bite +8 melee (1d8+7)Full Attack: Bite +8 melee (1d8+7)Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.Special Attacks: Pack overrunSpecial Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, scentSaves: Fort +7, Ref +6, Will +3Abilities: Str 21, Dex 15, Con 17, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 10Skills: Hide +1, Jump +7, Listen +6, Move Silently +3*, Spot +6, Survival +4*Feats: Alertness, TrackEnvironment: Temperate forests and hillsOrganization: Solitary, pair, or pack (3-20)Challenge Rating: 3?Treasure: NoneAlignment: Usually chaotic evilAdvancement: 5-12 HD (Large)Level Adjustment: +2? (cohort) or —...Skills: A winged gnasher has a +1 racial bonus on Listen, Move Silently, and&nbsp; Spot checks, and a +2 racial bonus on Hide checks. *When in flight, winged gnashers gain a +6 bonus on Move Silently checks.*A gnasher has a +4&nbsp; racial bonus on Survival checks when tracking by scent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5531083, member: 57383"] Agreed, I'd make the bonus a bit lower than a Giant Owl's though, since they have leathery wings. How about: * When in flight, winged gnashers gain a +6 bonus on Move Silently checks. Upon reflection, they don't need the higher Dex I proposed earlier assuming we give them the standard +2 to NA for increasing size to Large. I'd give them a "half size" increase to their ability scores, since they ain't that much bigger than a regular gnasher. That works out: [B]Gnasher, Winged[/B] Large Magical Beast Hit Dice: 4d10+12 (34 hp) Initiative: +2 Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), fly 20 ft. (clumsy) Armor Class: 15 (-1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13 Base Attack/Grapple: +4/+13 Attack: Bite +8 melee (1d8+7) Full Attack: Bite +8 melee (1d8+7) Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft. Special Attacks: Pack overrun Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, scent Saves: Fort +7, Ref +6, Will +3 Abilities: Str 21, Dex 15, Con 17, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 10 Skills: Hide +1, Jump +7, Listen +6, Move Silently +3*, Spot +6, Survival +4* Feats: Alertness, Track Environment: Temperate forests and hills Organization: Solitary, pair, or pack (3-20) Challenge Rating: [B][COLOR=Red]3?[/COLOR][/B] Treasure: None Alignment: Usually chaotic evil Advancement: 5-12 HD (Large) Level Adjustment: [B][COLOR=Red]+2?[/COLOR][/B] (cohort) or — ... Skills: A winged gnasher has a +1 racial bonus on Listen, Move Silently, and Spot checks, and a +2 racial bonus on Hide checks. *When in flight, winged gnashers gain a +6 bonus on Move Silently checks. *A gnasher has a +4 racial bonus on Survival checks when tracking by scent. [/QUOTE]

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