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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5873395" data-attributes="member: 57383">I think the SAs' wording needs some slight tweaking: Anti-Dragon Casting (Ex): Undead dragon slayers gain a bonus equal to&nbsp; half their favored enemy bonus on caster level checks to overcome the&nbsp; spell resistance of dragons (this does not stack with other bonuses,&nbsp; such as from the feat Spell Penetration) as well as the benefits of the Spell Focus feat for all spells cast against dragons. At caster level 17th, an undead&nbsp; dragon slayer also gains the benefits of the Greater Spell Focus feat for all&nbsp; spells cast against dragons.Favored Enemy (Dragon) (Ex): Undead dragon slayers have dragons as&nbsp; favored enemies, as per the ranger class ability. The bonus is equal to&nbsp; the maximum bonus achieved by a ranger of the dragon slayer's HD. An&nbsp; undead dragon slayers' favored enemy (dragon) ability does not stack with any other favored&nbsp; enemy ability.The current Smite Dragon is very weedy (just compare it to the Improved Weapon Throwing) and still has a &quot;paladin&quot; in it.Indeed, the damage is very weak compared to the Favored Enemy bonus of +1 per HD.I suggest making this a &quot;Dragon Strike&quot; ability with some different bonuses, such as an improvement to hit. Then add Improved Dragon Strike as an optional extra.e.g.:Dragon Strike (Ex?): X times a day, as a standard action, an undead dragon&nbsp; slayer can make a single attack against a dragon with an insight bonus&nbsp; to&nbsp; the attack and damage rolls equal to the slayer's Hit Dice (maximum +20). Additionally, a dragon&nbsp; strike attack is not affected by the miss chance that applies to&nbsp; attackers trying to strike a concealed target (provided the target is a&nbsp; dragon).Improved Dragon Strike (Ex?): 3 times a day, as a swift action, an undead dragon&nbsp; slayer can add an insight bonus equal to their Hit Dice (maximum +20) to&nbsp; the attack and damage rolls of their next attack against a dragon (if&nbsp; it is made before the end of the next round). Additionally, a dragon&nbsp; strike attack is not affected by the miss chance that applies to&nbsp; attackers trying to strike a concealed target (provided the target is a&nbsp; dragon).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5873395, member: 57383"] I think the SAs' wording needs some slight tweaking: [B]Anti-Dragon Casting (Ex):[/B] Undead dragon slayers gain a bonus equal to half their favored enemy bonus on caster level checks to overcome the spell resistance of dragons (this does not stack with other bonuses, such as from the [COLOR=Red]feat[/COLOR] Spell Penetration) as well as the [COLOR=Red]benefits[/COLOR] of [COLOR=Red]the[/COLOR] Spell Focus [COLOR=Red]feat[/COLOR] for all spells cast against dragons. At caster level 17th, an undead dragon slayer also gains the [COLOR=Red]benefits[/COLOR] of [COLOR=Red]the[/COLOR] Greater Spell Focus [COLOR=Red]feat[/COLOR] for all spells cast against dragons. [B]Favored Enemy (Dragon) (Ex):[/B] Undead dragon slayers have dragons as favored enemies, as per the ranger class ability. The bonus is equal to the maximum bonus achieved by a ranger of the dragon slayer's HD. An undead dragon slayers' [COLOR=Red]favored enemy (dragon)[/COLOR] ability does not stack with any other favored enemy ability. The current Smite Dragon is very weedy (just compare it to the Improved Weapon Throwing) and still has a "paladin" in it. Indeed, the damage is very weak compared to the Favored Enemy bonus of +1 per HD. I suggest making this a "Dragon Strike" ability with some different bonuses, such as an improvement to hit. Then add Improved Dragon Strike as an optional extra. e.g.: [B]Dragon Strike (Ex?):[/B] X times a day, as a standard action, an undead dragon slayer can make a single attack against a dragon with an insight bonus to the attack and damage rolls equal to the slayer's Hit Dice (maximum +20). Additionally, a dragon strike attack is not affected by the miss chance that applies to attackers trying to strike a concealed target (provided the target is a dragon). [B]Improved Dragon Strike (Ex?):[/B] 3 times a day, as a swift action, an undead dragon slayer can add an insight bonus equal to their Hit Dice (maximum +20) to the attack and damage rolls of their next attack against a dragon (if it is made before the end of the next round). Additionally, a dragon strike attack is not affected by the miss chance that applies to attackers trying to strike a concealed target (provided the target is a dragon). [/QUOTE]

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