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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5203159" data-attributes="member: 57383">That seems a little high, considering they don't really have that much in the way of supernatural attacks or SLAs.Consider how one would fare in a mano-a-mano against the SRD Pit Fiend:Duruch’i-lin: AC 33, hp 432, Bite +41 melee (2d10+13) and 2 hooves +36 melee (1d10+6) or 6 magic  bolts +36 ranged (3d6 force)Pit Fiend: AC40, hp 225, 2 claws +30 melee (2d8+13) and 2 wings +28 melee (2d6+6) and bite +28 melee (4d6+6 plus poison plus disease) and tail slap +28 melee (2d8+6)The "Uber-ki-lin" is better off attacking with its hextuple magic bolts (average 63 damage if they all hit) than its bite and hooves (average 47 damage if they all hit). The Pit Fiend is probably best off opening with meteor swarm (average 70 damage assuming the Duruch'i-lin makes all its saves, which seems likely) then teleporting to melee (average 83 damage if they all hit).Both have attacks almost as high as their opponents AC, so they're not likely to miss. The Pit Fiend does about 110-130% of the Duruch'i-lin's damage, but the Duruch'i-lin has 192% of the Fiend's hit points.I'm thinking it's more of a Challenge Rating 21 myself.Oh yes, they need to go Colossal.I'd prefer a slightly wider Gargantuan range than the one Freyar suggests, maybe:Advancement: 33-42 HD (Gargantuan), 43-84 HD (Colossal)As for size, shall we just upscale a unicorn and change the flavour to reflect the different sexual dimorphism?A typical adult unicorn grows to 8 feet in length, stands 5 feet high  at the shoulder, and weighs 1,200 pounds. Females are slightly smaller  and slimmer than males.Upscale it eightfold to put it on the Gargantuan/Colossal cusp would make it...A typical adult Duruch'i-lin grows to 64 feet in length, stands 40 feet high  at the shoulder, and weighs 300 tons. Females are noticeably larger  and more powerfully built than males.</blockquote>

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