Converting Oriental Adventures creatures

Shade

Monster Junkie
Chinese Undead
Type # Appearing AC Move HD %Lair Treasure
Celestial Stag / 2-12 / 3 / 12 / 3 / 0%

Celestial Stag
An appetizing name for an unappetizing creature, whose amoebalike form normally looks like a green nightmare deer but can ooze through any nook or cranny and reform. The creature attacks with 2 hooves 1-4 and 2 1-6. Clerics turn them as for Wraiths. Celestial Stags live underground and light equivalent to full daylight will dissolve them.

Originally appeared in Dragon Magazine #26 (1979).

From Wikipedia
Celestial Stag - No one has ever seen a Celestial Stag. They live in underground mines, searching for the light of day. They will attempt to bribe, speak to, and even torture miners in their quest to reach the surface, where they turn into a deadly liquid form.
http://www.borges.pitt.edu/vakalo/zf/html/body_the_celestial_stag.html

Giants, monsters, and dragons: an encyclopedia of folklore, legend, and myth

http://www.angelfire.com/sk3/asianhorror/c.html
 
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freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
I'm not getting incorporeal, but I could easily go with magical beast, aberration, or even ooze.
 

demiurge1138

Inventor of Super-Toast
Good point. If they were incorporeal, they could fly through the walls of the mine to find the surface. Is extraplanar a possibility (from Carceri or the Plane of Shadow), or do we want to stick to native?
 

Shade

Monster Junkie
I'd be fine with extraplanar, and with their ties to tunnels, I could easily see them hailing from Pandemonium. Of course, their desire to get to the surface could explain Carceri as demiurge suggested, as evidence of them trying to escape the prison plane.

As for type, any of those freyar mentioned are plausible. Despite coming from a "Chinese Undead" article, that type seems the least appropriate of those mentioned. I'm leaning slightly toward aberration, but I'm not ready to rule out magical beast or ooze.
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Perhaps they have been transplanted from Carceri by some unknown magical force? Let's go with aberration (extraplanar).
 

Cleon

Adventurer
Chinese Undead
Type # Appearing AC Move HD %Lair Treasure
Celestial Stag / 2-12 / 3 / 12 / 3 / 0%

Celestial Stag
An appetizing name for an unappetizing creature, whose amoebalike form normally looks like a green nightmare deer but can ooze through any nook or cranny and reform. The creature attacks with 2 hooves 1-4 and 2 1-6. Clerics turn them as for Wraiths. Celestial Stags live underground and light equivalent to full daylight will dissolve them.

Originally appeared in Dragon Magazine #26 (1979).
Just to make those stats a bit easier to read.
Type: Celestial Stag
#Appearing: 2-12
AC: 3
Move: 12
Hit Dice: 3
% in Lair: 0%


Amoeba like form normally looks like a green nightmare deer

Can ooze through any nook or cranny and reform

Attacks with 2 hooves 1-4 and 2 1-6 (2 hooves and 2 antlers?)

Turned as Wraiths.

Celestial Stags live underground and light equivalent to full daylight will dissolve them.
The Book of Imaginary Beings entry adds the following information:
We know absolutely nothing about the appearance of the Celestial Stag (maybe because nobody has ever had a good look at one), but we do know that these tragic animals live underground in mines and desire nothing more than to reach the light of day. They have the power of speech and implore the miners to help them to the surface. At first, a Celestial Stag attempts to bribe the workmen with the promise of revealing hidden veins of silver and gold; when this gambit fails, the beast becomes troublesome and the miners are forced to overpower it and wall it up in one of the mine galleries. It is also rumored that miners outnumbered by the Stags have been tortured to death. Legend has it that if the Celestial Stag finds 'its way into the open air, it becomes a foul-smelling liquid that can breed death and pestilence.
The tale is from China and is recorded by G. Willoughby Meade in his book Chinese Ghouls and Goblins.
From which we get:
Able to speak and negotiate with humans (-> sapient, knows Common)

Wants to reach the surface

If it reaches open air it becomes a foul fluid than causes disease?

The only way to contain one is to wall them up in a mine galley, encase them in clay or similarly seal them into a confined space​
So, that suggests
Undead of Gravetouched Aberration
3 Hit Dice
Speed 30 ft
AC around 17
Speaks Common
Intelligence 8-12?
I'm thinking we may want to rationalize its 2 hooves and 2 antlers into
Two hooves (1d4) and horns (2d6)
I was tempted to give them regeneration, to explain why the miners don't just kill them - they just flow back together again - but a simpler explanation is anyone who kills one would be exposed to the Liquid Pestilence of their deliquescing remains.
 

Cleon

Adventurer
By the way, I'm a bit skeptical of the provenance of this creature, from what I can find out a Chinese "Celestial Stag" is either a Kirin or Dragon, or a creature very similar to one, rather than resembling the creature described.

Since Borges The Book of Imaginary Beings included many purely fictional creatures (like the Cheshire Cat), many obscure creatures and at least one (the Peryton) which I can't find any mention of from an earlier source, the mine-dwelling version of the Celestial Stag may well be a "made up from scratch" or a local talltale, rather than a true mythical beast.

That doesn't mean we can't convert it though, it does make a cool monster.
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Hmm, I'd overlooked the turning instructions. We could make them tomb-tainted or vulnerable to turning, if we all feel like it.

Most of Cleon's suggestions look good. I think the reason they turn into mush in the open air is that they are exposed to daylight in open air, at least combining the two reasons. I do like the idea of making the liquid pestilence be a kind of death throes.
 

demiurge1138

Inventor of Super-Toast
Death throes liquid pestilence and regeneration both work for me. Making them tomb-tainted is also a good idea.
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
I'm on board with that, too. Let's get started.
3HD
Str 12, Dex 18, Con 17, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 9? These seem pretty average, but I expect they have good Dex due to AC and decent Con to increase the death throes DC.
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Looks like a good start. I'd do either shakes or slimy doom for the disease, unless we want to make one ourselves.

We also need to put in a squeezing ability.
 

Shade

Monster Junkie
I could've sworn that the squeezing bit was usually part of the amorphous ability, but I'm failing to locate it.

Found one odd variant on the ability...

Amorphous (Ex): Bludgeoning weapons and impact damage deal no damage to Juiblex. He is able to slip through spaces that otherwise could accommodate a creature no larger than Tiny because of his jellylike substance.

Or we could borrow this...

Boneless (Ex): The tyrannabyss has no bones or solid organs and is able to squeeze itself through openings much smaller than its apparent size. Treat the tyrannabyss as a creature two size categories smaller for purposes of determining what hampers movement and when squeezing (see Player's Handbook, page 148).
 

demiurge1138

Inventor of Super-Toast
Like the Juiblex squeezing, but let's just give it DR/slashing or piercing. Let's go for slimy doom. It's under-used.
 

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