Converting Oriental Adventures creatures

[Shade]

Updated.

DR 5?

Suggested amount of acid damage for death throes?

Shall we work on the "light equivalent to full daylight will dissolve them" ability?

 

[freyar]

It's always a little weird to mix DR with regeneration, but DR 5 is ok.

1d6 acid within 5 ft?

We could borrow from a vampire, perhaps.

 

[Shade]

So...

Sunlight Vulnerability (Ex): Exposing a celestial stag to direct sunlight disorients it: It can take only a single move action or attack action and is destroyed utterly in the next round if it cannot escape.


The suggested acid damage and range appeal.

 

[freyar]

I think that works. We could just add "exposing nearby creatures to its death throes" to the last sentence, if we want.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Skills: 12

Feats: 2

 

[freyar]

I'm going to say Diplomacy 3, Intimidate 3, Listen 2, Sense Motive 2, Spot 2. Then give them Negotiator and Skill Focus (Intimidate).

 

[Shade]

I get more of a Bluff vibe than Intimidate. What about the rest of you?

 

[freyar]

Hmm, I thought of the harassment they do as more like Intimidation, but I can see Bluff. Or we could add Bluff, go with 2 ranks for everything, and take Persuasive insteand of SF (Intimidate).

 

[Shade]

That's reasonable.

 

[demiurge1138]

They're torturers, so I get more of an Intimidate vibe from them as well. I don't think we should invest two feats into social skills, though. Multiattack I would favor.

Perhaps light spells and searing light should deal lethal damage and deal damage as if it were undead?

 

[Shade]

They're torturers, so I get more of an Intimidate vibe from them as well. I don't think we should invest two feats into social skills, though. Multiattack I would favor.

Fair enough. They really don't have enough skill ranks to spread 'em around so much, and I agree that they shouldn't be so socially-focused on the feats.

Perhaps light spells and searing light should deal lethal damage and deal damage as if it were undead?

Great idea!

 

[freyar]

Agreed!

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Organization: Solitary?

Alignment: Always neutral evil?

Advancement: 4–6 HD (Medium); 7–9 HD (Large)?

Celestial stags are x feet long and weigh x pounds.

 

[freyar]

Not sure on alignment, but the rest looks good. (I can't decide if they're crazily lawful with regard to the surface thing or what.)

5 ft long and 150 lb?

 

[Cleon]

I'm going to say Diplomacy 3, Intimidate 3, Listen 2, Sense Motive 2, Spot 2. Then give them Negotiator and Skill Focus (Intimidate).

Hmm, I thought of the harassment they do as more like Intimidation, but I can see Bluff. Or we could add Bluff, go with 2 ranks for everything, and take Persuasive insteand of SF (Intimidate).

I like the idea of Bluff and Intimidate, but don't see Diplomacy or Sense Motive as fitting very well. (To begin with, they're not that great at persuading miners to lead them out, and they can be tricked into dead ends and sealed up, which implies they're not much cop at persuasion and sensing deception).

So, I'd prefer something like Bluff 2, Intimidate 3, Listen 2, Spot 2, with Persuasive rather than Negotiator as the social feat.

Also, they're supposed to be nigh impossible to see in mines - maybe give them Shadow Blend or massive racial bonuses to Hide when in shadows?

Perhaps light spells and searing light should deal lethal damage and deal damage as if it were undead?

Definitely.

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

Organization: Solitary?

Alignment: Always neutral evil?

Advancement: 4–6 HD (Medium); 7–9 HD (Large)?

Celestial stags are x feet long and weigh x pounds.

How about the size of a Giant Muntjac Deer or a Fallow Deer (~100 pounds, 5 feet long, 2 foot tall at shoulder)

 

[freyar]

I'll agree with that logic for the skills, feats, and size.

 

[demiurge1138]

Neutral evil seems the right alignment to me.

 

[Cleon]

Neutral evil seems the right alignment to me.

I agree. Their propensity for torture indicates an Evil alignment, and I can't see any leaning toward Law or Chaos. Besides I feel there's something rather elemental (Earth & Shadow) about them, with tilts me towards Neutral as far as their philosophy goes.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

CR 2?