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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6124619" data-attributes="member: 57383">Updating the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?268435-Converting-Oriental-Adventures-creatures&p=6108722&viewfull=1#post6108722" target="_blank">Veiled Maidens Working Draft</a>.Okay, I guess we need to start talking special abilities.We've got a bunch of martial techniques to interpret, but I think we'd better decide on the "Martial Training" first. The original monster was a 3rd level monk, so I'm thinking we should give her something like the Monklike trait we came up with for the <a href="http://creaturecatalog.enworld.org/cc/converted/view_c.php?CreatureID=1626" target="_blank">Sea Bonze</a>:Monklike (Ex): A sea bonze possesses the AC bonus, base attack bonus, base saving throw bonuses, flurry of blows, ki strike, and unarmed strike damage of a 6th-level monk. A sea bonze that later takes monk levels adds its inherent monklike abilities to those of a true monk. Thus, a 4th-level sea bonze monk possesses the AC bonus, base attack bonus, base saving throw bonuses, flurry of blows, ki strike, and unarmed strike damage of a 10th-level monk.Although since she actually was a monk, it might be easier just giving her all the abilities of an X level monk.Ex-Monk (Ex): The Veiled Maidens possesses the AC bonus, base attack bonus, base saving throw bonuses, flurry of blows, unarmed strike damage and all the special abilities of an 8th-level monk. The Maidens' undead state prevents it from using its Purity of Body and Wholeness of Body abilities. Since it is no longer lawful, the Veiled Maidens cannot gain new levels as a monk.Hmm, that would give her a 1d10 unarmed strike attack. That seems way too much considering she has seven bodies to attack with. We could say she can only attack with her veil, I suppose, "due to the nature of her curse" or somesuch. Also the AC bonus will throw off my pretty numbers. I prefer something closer to the Sea Bonze's ability.Something like:Monk Training (Ex): The Veiled Maidens possesses the base attack bonus, base  saving throw bonuses, bonus feats, evasion, ki strike and slow fall abilities of an 8th-level monk. The Veiled Maidens cannot gain levels as a monk since it is not lawful.Hmm, the original Veiled Maiden was only a 3rd level Monk, and I don't think she needs a lot of the above powers. We could limit the monk tricks to 3rd level, like we gave the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?p=5944308#post5944308" target="_blank">Ninja Spirit Shadow</a>.Martial Artistry (Ex): The Veiled  Maidens possesses the bonus feats, evasion, and  unarmed strike abilities of a 3rd-level monk. Furthermore, the Veiled Maidens possesses the base attack bonus and base saving throw bonuses of a monk of a level equal to its Hit Dice.Currently I prefer the last "Martial Artistry" option.</blockquote>

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