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<blockquote data-quote="freyar" data-source="post: 6155758" data-attributes="member: 40227">Let's sort out what we want:I don't think attacks with the opposite hand should take penalties or necessarily AC or Dex-based checks.&nbsp; I'm also not sure about Concentration checks.&nbsp; I guess I could go either way on a lot of the grappling penalties.&nbsp; And I guess we need to spell out what the penalties are.Entangle Weapon (Ex): A Veiled Maiden may attempt to disarm an opponent with a +X bonus without provoking an attack of opportunity. If the attempt succeeds, however, the opponent's weapon (or other implement, such as a wand or staff) is not disarmed but tangled in the Maiden's veils until the Maiden releases the weapon or the opponent succeeds at [an opposed Dexterity check against the Maiden, DC X Str check to rip the veil, Escape Artist check, the opponent drops the weapon, etc]. If the attempt fails, the opponent may not attempt to disarm the Veiled Maiden in reaction. A Veiled Maiden may attempt to disarm an entangled weapon without provoking an attack of opportunity; if the attempt fails, the opponent may not attempt to disarm the Veiled Maiden in reaction. An opponent may not perform motions, including attacks or somatic components, with a hand or other appendage holding an entangled weapon.&nbsp; Veiled Maidens may also attempt normal disarm actions with no bonus while provoking attacks of opportunity.Is that enough of a penalty for you?&nbsp; I'm trying to keep things simple.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="freyar, post: 6155758, member: 40227"] Let's sort out what we want: I don't think attacks with the opposite hand should take penalties or necessarily AC or Dex-based checks. I'm also not sure about Concentration checks. I guess I could go either way on a lot of the grappling penalties. And I guess we need to spell out what the penalties are. Entangle Weapon (Ex): A Veiled Maiden may attempt to disarm an opponent with a +X bonus without provoking an attack of opportunity. If the attempt succeeds, however, the opponent's weapon (or other implement, such as a wand or staff) is not disarmed but tangled in the Maiden's veils until the Maiden releases the weapon or the opponent succeeds at [an opposed Dexterity check against the Maiden, DC X Str check to rip the veil, Escape Artist check, the opponent drops the weapon, etc]. If the attempt fails, the opponent may not attempt to disarm the Veiled Maiden in reaction. A Veiled Maiden may attempt to disarm an entangled weapon without provoking an attack of opportunity; if the attempt fails, the opponent may not attempt to disarm the Veiled Maiden in reaction. An opponent may not perform motions, including attacks or somatic components, with a hand or other appendage holding an entangled weapon. Veiled Maidens may also attempt normal disarm actions with no bonus while provoking attacks of opportunity. Is that enough of a penalty for you? I'm trying to keep things simple. [/QUOTE]

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