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Message: <blockquote data-quote="freyar" data-source="post: 6176402" data-attributes="member: 40227">The problem is doing it that way is that the Escape Artist (or Strength check) DC reads funny: is it DC 18 or DC 19 to escape a single veil?  In post 1370, it seemed like the DC to escape one veil was supposed to be DC Y, but then the extra sentence made it DC Y+1.  It's just a little harder to divine the intent of the rule.Should we specify that veils are cut via a sunder attempt?  That's somewhat standard in this type of situation.  Then no AC is required.  I'd go with 5 hp, damage taken by the Maiden, or else 10 hp, no damage taken by the Maiden (like a roper's strands).  Hardness can be set when we do the Steel Cloth ability.  What do you think?</blockquote>