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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8291826" data-attributes="member: 57383">Hold on a second, I've just noticed a possible error that somehow slipped through the cracks.Shouldn't they all have Advancement of &quot;by character class&quot; rather than &quot;—&quot; like the Reaper does?The Shadow Walker and Paper Warrior even have &quot;It adds its inherent monklike abilities to any monk levels it might acquire&quot; in their Martial Artistry but have no means to obtain said monk levels!Come to think of it, shouldn't all the other Swords have that crunch? i.e.:The Reaper: It adds its inherent fighter abilities to any fighter levels it might acquire. Thus, a 3rd-level Reaper fighter possesses the BAB and fighter feats of a 12th-level fighter.The Veiled Maidens: It adds its inherent monklike abilities to any monk levels it might acquire. Thus, a 5th-level Veiled Maidens monk possesses the bonus feats, evasion, fast movement and unarmed strike abilities of an 8th-level monk of an 8th-level monk and the BAB and base saves of a 13th-level monk.The General: It adds its inherent fighter abilities to any fighter levels it might acquire. Thus, a 1st-level General fighter possesses the BAB and fighter feats of a 14th-level fighter.The Screaming Child: It adds its inherent fighter abilities to any fighter levels it might acquire. Thus, a 3rd-level Child fighter possesses the fighter feats of a 12th-level fighter.Either that or we should remove the &quot;By character class&quot; and references to levels from the other Swords' Martial Artistry/Training abilities.I also wondered whether we should have &quot;equal to its undead Hit Dice&quot; rather than &quot;equal to its Hit Dice&quot; in the Martial Training/Artistry abilities of the Reaper, Maidens, General and Screaming Child.Upon reflection, we can just directly quote a class level instead.&nbsp; We already do that for some of the entries, so at least it'll make them all consistent! (i.e. &quot;The Reaper possesses the base attack bonus and qualifies for fighter feats as if it were a 12th level fighter&quot;; &quot;The Veiled Maidens possesses the bonus feats, evasion, fast movement and unarmed strike abilities of a 3rd-level monk and the base attack bonus and base saving throw bonuses of an 8th-level monk&quot;; &quot;The Shadow Walker possesses the base attack bonus of an 11th-level rogue and qualifies for fighter feats as if it were an 8th-level fighter.&quot;; &quot;The Child possesses the base attack bonus of an 12th-level rogue and qualifies for fighter feats as if it were a 9th-level fighter.&quot;).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8291826, member: 57383"] Hold on a second, I've just noticed a possible error that somehow slipped through the cracks. Shouldn't they all have Advancement of "by character class" rather than "—" like the Reaper does? The Shadow Walker and Paper Warrior even have "It adds its inherent monklike abilities to any monk levels it might acquire" in their Martial Artistry but have no means to obtain said monk levels! Come to think of it, shouldn't all the other Swords have that crunch? i.e.: [B]The Reaper:[/B] It adds its inherent fighter abilities to any fighter levels it might acquire. Thus, a 3rd-level Reaper fighter possesses the BAB and fighter feats of a 12th-level fighter. [B]The Veiled Maidens:[/B] It adds its inherent monklike abilities to any monk levels it might acquire. Thus, a 5th-level Veiled Maidens monk possesses the bonus feats, evasion, fast movement and unarmed strike abilities of an 8th-level monk of an 8th-level monk and the BAB and base saves of a 13th-level monk. [B]The General:[/B] It adds its inherent fighter abilities to any fighter levels it might acquire. Thus, a 1st-level General fighter possesses the BAB and fighter feats of a 14th-level fighter. [B]The Screaming Child:[/B] It adds its inherent fighter abilities to any fighter levels it might acquire. Thus, a 3rd-level Child fighter possesses the fighter feats of a 12th-level fighter. Either that or we should remove the "By character class" and references to levels from the other Swords' Martial Artistry/Training abilities. I also wondered whether we should have "equal to its [B]undead[/B] Hit Dice" rather than "equal to its Hit Dice" in the Martial Training/Artistry abilities of the Reaper, Maidens, General and Screaming Child. Upon reflection, we can just directly quote a class level instead. We already do that for some of the entries, so at least it'll make them all consistent! (i.e. "The Reaper possesses the base attack bonus and qualifies for fighter feats as if it were a 12th level fighter"; "The Veiled Maidens possesses the bonus feats, evasion, fast movement and unarmed strike abilities of a 3rd-level monk and the base attack bonus and base saving throw bonuses of an 8th-level monk"; "The Shadow Walker possesses the base attack bonus of an 11th-level rogue and qualifies for fighter feats as if it were an 8th-level fighter."; "The Child possesses the base attack bonus of an 12th-level rogue and qualifies for fighter feats as if it were a 9th-level fighter."). [/QUOTE]

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