Converting original D&D and Mystara monsters

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If we go for a bonus to another ability, personally I'm still against it - but if it meant they get the Cha penalty, I would opt for Int. They seem a more cerebral than physical race.

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Mortis
 
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The problem with giving them the Cha penalty on top of the Str penalty is that they are essentially getting a penalty to three ability scores (since Str counts twice), with only a benefit to one to offset it. They don't have enough other decent abilities to put them on par with an LA +0 race. The small natural armor bonus, along with the Wis bonus, is probably enough to offset the Str penalty, but not a Cha penalty as well.

Why is the Cha penalty important, again? I honestly forgot since it had been so long since we worked on these fellows. If it is because they are haughty and arrogant, so are sun elves, with no Cha penalty. We could always give them a penalty on Diplomacy checks instead to represent this if it is important.
 

Shade said:
Why is the Cha penalty important, again? I honestly forgot since it had been so long since we worked on these fellows. If it is because they are haughty and arrogant, so are sun elves, with no Cha penalty. We could always give them a penalty on Diplomacy checks instead to represent this if it is important.
My reason, not sure if it was the group concensus, was to penalize Cha to stop them being an 'uber' race for playing clerics.

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Mortis
 

Mortis said:
My reason, not sure if it was the group concensus, was to penalize Cha to stop them being an 'uber' race for playing clerics.

Ahh. But they wouldn't be any more uber for clerics than half-orcs are for fighters, right? Now if they got a bonus to Cha, I might be worried. ;)
 

OK.

Maybe we need a poll. ;)

If we want to keep the ability modifiers balanced, then we can either go with:

a) -2 Str, +2 Wis
or
b) -2 Str, +2 Int, +2 Wis, -2 Cha.

Regards
Mortis
 

a poll? if it will help expediate things... there you go. :)

good news everyone! my usual lunch partner has gone on vacation until early next month! so, i will be here every workday during my lunch break, approximately from 11:45am - 12:30 central time, if you want to catch me "live". :)
 

Aspect of BOZ said:
good news everyone! my usual lunch partner has gone on vacation until early next month! so, i will be here every workday during my lunch break, approximately from 11:45am - 12:30 central time, if you want to catch me "live". :)

...or is it Memorex? I mean, you're not really BOZ, just as Aspect of him, so is it really live? ;)
 


Since you've got all this extra "free time" now, should we reboot the ondonti conversion while we await the results of the hutaakan poll? ;)
 

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