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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 988332" data-attributes="member: 5834">That's it huh? I am removing Adamantine damage resistance from my game anyhow. Players and monsters will just have to bash through the damage resistance of casters with Stoneskin and golems irregardless of weapon type.Which ones? All the ones I can think of to counter combat are 1 minute per level duration spells save for Stoneskin and Protection from Arrows which only helps in certain situations.If you had had an active Fly spell you could have got off the ground possibly before the monk went to work on you. That is the kind of crap I am talking about. Fly and very few other spells are all we have to survive melee attack given our low hit points and AC.Exactly why Fly isn't overpowered. There are plenty of options for a caster to be hammered with. Why was it so important to limit the duration of FLy and Invisibility and such given the lethality of spells and melee combat to an arcane caster. Isn't the low hit points and AC enough to counter some higher duration spells that help an arcane casters survivability?I tried this. It worked for a little while. The advance scout quickly figured out that the person who didn't belong must be the caster by making sure everyone else was present and accounted for.Many of the scouts weren't invisible. They were just Rogues or Fighters watching the battle from a distance and running when it looked like the advance ambush force meant to test our abilities was almost dead.Often the fighter types have already killed everything before I have the chance to enter the combat save for the really tough combats. I guess I get a chance to shine during crunch time, which is nice.We don't do this. It doesn't seem very heroic or story like to us. It isn't in character for most of our characters to walk around a dungeon invisible. Our group and probably many other groups term for this is "cheesy".Glad you don't do it. We usually cast Fly when it is needed. We worry about not having a spell when we might need it, so we don't cast any spell casually.I haven't played D&D any other way for years. I think the big reason we play the way we do is because we are really emphatic about character development. If we can't see the characters doing it, then they don't do it. If it would look cheesy in a movie or book, we don't do it either. No extra xp. We just consider it a sound tactic.No, we don't. We usually use planned random encounters. That means we roll random encounters, but we plan out why they happen in advance.I understand that everyone has different experiences playing this game, so they may see some of these changes as increasing the challenge. I only wish I knew how the majority of folks run a campaign. Then I might better understand why they clap for certain changes and hate others.I just know reducing Fly and a few other spells like Invisibility and Improved Invisibility does nothing but make life nearly intolerable for are already besieged casters. We don't plan on incorporating this particular change.I and the other members of the group grimaced when we heard about this change because we know how tough a time casters already have surviving in our campaigns. The Haste change we didn't mind, but that was because we could see how troublesome it was for both DM's or players. It seemed that whichever side had Haste was guarateed victory, and if both sides had it, someone was going to die on both sides every round.We will incorporate the changes we like and house rule or keep the old rule for those we don't. Overall, Revised D&D is an improvement. I like most of what I hear.Even the Revised Ranger is making its way into our game. I decided that the Revised Ranger was a perfect Ranger tradition for Elves, Halflings and Half-elves raised in elven societies. It fit perfectly the traditional elven forest warrior theme with elves that use Archery and can disappear into the forest. I am constructng an alternate Ranger for Dwarves, Humans, Half-orcs and Half-elves raised in human socieities. This Ranger will have more versatile weapon choices, be able to wear heavier armor, and use d10 Hit Die, but will be lacking a few of the options of the Revised Ranger.I'm glad each edition has helped get the creative juices flowing. I like taking the time to construct what I consider to be my perfect or near perfect campaign world.</blockquote>

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