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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EtherHulkRending" data-source="post: 988333" data-attributes="member: 12889">I'll address two things in this post, the DR issue and the 18th level fighter potentially killing a CR 25 dragon by himselfFirst off, so what if DR requires you to have different material weapons?.  Are you telling me that you never carried around a bludgeoning weapon incase you fought skelatons or xorns?  Are you telling me you never carried around a ranged weapon incase there's something you don't want to fight HTH?  If you want to  survive you carry the tools of the trade.  IF you fight with 2 weapons, sure you may have to fork over more money to get an extra weapon of (insert material here) but is it that different concept wise from forking over for another MAGIC weapon when you fought with 2?  Most TWF characters I know wouldn't just get 1 weapon enchanted, they would get both, and keep progressing that way so they could continue to hit with both weapons, other than cost this is not that different than the new DR system.next, as for the 18th level fighter dropping the CR 25 dragon...oy...where to start....First off, the fighter isn't doing it himself, he is being buffed up BEFORE the fight, if you take the same character and send him at the dragon w/o being buffed, ask yourself...will he still be able to dish out that damage?Secondly, in this scenario you aren't playing the dragon as a dragon, to his full potential.  It's a challenge to 25th level PC's because he uses his ABILITIES to keep himself from danger and to weaken his foe.  If that sword is being pesky and the guy is buffed, have that Dragon GREATER DISPEL  from up in the air.  Next pass, obliterate the fighter with a breath weapon. Use spells on him, or use your REACH to keep the fighter from closing in to take his full attacks on you.  Third, the fighter is tackling something roughly 7 CR's above him....on two failed saves a 7th level wizard can kill CR 14's on his own, Phantasmal Killer will do the trick nicely. Just because he CAN beat the high CR creature, doesn't mean that he will or that he should.  If you want to get techical, a str1 commoner could the same said dragon if he got a GMW from your high level cleric and coup de graced the dragon, 1's happen on fort saves, does it mean the common is broken? no, it means a 1 got rolled.I think most of the headache is based off of bad tactics by the DM and not knowing what his limits are.  I ran a high level campaign that played weekly for a year, we went from level 8 to level 16  to 17 and we obliterated the gold caps....the group could do almost anything and buy anything they wanted, my only restriction was no evil PC's....and I never had a hard time challenging them.  I bet they could kill a CR 25 Red Dragon too , if I let them, but I play creatures based on how they SHOULD be run, an INT 2 creature knows not to stay in one place if it's getting wailed on, so why would a 20+ INT Dragon ?</blockquote>

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