Converting True Dragons

[RavinRay]

Edit: Added OA options

Hey, Shade, it's been just over a year since you started this thread—that's a milestone already, and we're still at it!

Jade Dragons and Oriental Adventures

If you are using Oriental Adventures in your campaign, jade dragons are considered lung dragons.

I can't help it, I really do want to make the jade dragon as oriental as possible, so here goes. In an OA campaign, a jade dragon can plane shift to the Spirit World. It can cast wu jen spells, shaman spells, and spells from the x (shaman) domains as arcane spells (rather than sorcerer/wizard, cleric, and cleric domain spells respectively).

 

[Shade]

Hey, Shade, it's been just over a year since you started this thread—that's a milestone already, and we're still at it!

Cool.

I can't help it, I really do want to make the jade dragon as oriental as possible, so here goes. In an OA campaign, a jade dragon can plane shift to the Spirit World. It can cast wu jen spells, shaman spells, and spells from the x (shaman) domains as arcane spells (rather than sorcerer/wizard, cleric, and cleric domain spells respectively).

Sounds excellent. Suggestions for the shaman domains?

 

[RavinRay]

I'll see which shaman domains feel like counterparts to cleric domains we'll assign to the jade dragon, that way it will still retain the feel.

I noticed that beguile has some effects in common with enthrall .

 

[Shade]

I'll see which shaman domains feel like counterparts to cleric domains we'll assign to the jade dragon, that way it will still retain the feel.

Speaking of which, did we select cleric domains yet?

I noticed that beguile has some effects in common with enthrall .

Interesting. Yet another spell effect (like slow) that should have been in the condition summary.

Perhaps we should just state that Beguile leaves the victims enthralled (as the spell)?



Backing up, is everyone OK with these SLAs and frequency of usage?

detect thoughts (juvenile or older) at will?

shatter (adult or older) 3/day?

sculpt sound (old or older) 3/day?

song of discord (ancient or older) 3/day?

plane shift (great wyrm) at will?

 

[freyar]

SLAs look good, except maybe plane shift. Gems get plane shift at wyrmling; when do lung dragons get it?

I think we should go with beguile as enthrall, too. Maybe even replace Beguile with enthrall as an SLA (wyrmling, at will?). Also, if we keep beguile separate, we should take out the telepathy option, since we wanted to make it a sonic effect.

 

[Shade]

SLAs look good, except maybe plane shift. Gems get plane shift at wyrmling; when do lung dragons get it?

Wyrmling as well.

I think we should go with beguile as enthrall, too. Maybe even replace Beguile with enthrall as an SLA (wyrmling, at will?). Also, if we keep beguile separate, we should take out the telepathy option, since we wanted to make it a sonic effect.

The benefit of making it a Su ability, rather than spell-like, is the DC will scale better as it ages.

How's this?

Beguile (Su): A jade dragon often speaks in riddles. When it speaks for one full round, all creatures within 10 feet per age category must succeed on a Will save or become enthralled (as the spell). Beguile is a sonic, mind-affecting, language-dependent charm effect. A creature that successfully saves cannot be affected again by the same jade dragon's beguile ability for 24 hours. The save DC is Charisma-based.

 

[freyar]

So let's put plane shift at wyrmling.

Your beguile looks pretty good.

 

[Shade]

So let's put plane shift at wyrmling.

Your beguile looks pretty good.

OK. If we move plane shift to wyrmling, we'll need a new great wyrm SLA.

Great shout as suggested upstream? While it deals sonic damage like the breath weapon, it does have the added effect of stunning. If we use it, 1/day or 3/day?

 

[freyar]

What about something along the lines of mind-affecting spells? Say demand 1/day.

 

[Shade]

What about something along the lines of mind-affecting spells? Say demand 1/day.

Oooh...I like that much better.