Converting True Dragons

[freyar]

I think the range is a bit short on the rocks, actually. It's also a bit similar to Gruaghlothor's breath weapon.

Need to work on the skin that breaks weapons.

 

[RavinRay]

Come to think of it, those rocks may not have to be a breath weapon per se. Not all oral ejecta is a breath weapon; think of poison or acid spit or the aforementioned explosive gem of the amethyst dragon.

Obviously it has a burrow speed, but it can also burrow through solid rock like the li lung's tunneling ability.

 

[freyar]

Come to think of it, those rocks may not have to be a breath weapon per se. Not all oral ejecta is a breath weapon; think of poison or acid spit or the aforementioned explosive gem of the amethyst dragon.

Obviously it has a burrow speed, but it can also burrow through solid rock like the li lung's tunneling ability.

Agreed with all that. In fact, I'm not sure, maybe it would be better to give the stone dragon just 2 kinds of breath weapon, usable (one or the other) every 1d4 round and the stones as an Ex or Su ability 3x/day.

Care to post a revised tunneling ability?

 

[RavinRay]

Here's the li lung's tunneling ability. I think the stone dragon can be given the same speed.

Tunneling (Ex): Li lungs can burrow through solid stone at a speed of 5 feet.

 

[Shade]

We can borrow that for our hammer golem conversion as well.

 

[Mortis]

As I mentioned in the other thread

Do we need to clarify whether or not the tunnel remains or collapses behind the dragon?

Regards
Mortis

 

[RavinRay]

Since it's solid rock, I don't think the tunnel would collapse. One of the Dragonlance novels has the dwarves using enormous domesticated worms burrowing through solid rock, and these tunnels definitely last.

Tunneling (Ex): A stone dragon can burrow through solid stone at a speed of 5 feet, leaving behind an intact tunnel.

 

[Mortis]

Since it's solid rock, I don't think the tunnel would collapse. One of the Dragonlance novels has the dwarves using enormous domesticated worms burrowing through solid rock, and these tunnels definitely last.

I do agree with that sentiment - I think the 'official' creatures have tunnels that collapse to prevent pc's from using the tunnels as a shortcut etc.

Regards
Mortis

 

[Shade]

Looking at the basics, they compare rather closely to a copper dragon for damage output, so we could model its physical ability scores off the copper.

HD puts it about on par with the copper as well. Size is also comparable to copper. Its AC is one better.

Int is comparable to a green, so we might model its physical ability scores off the green.

Land speed is comparable to a blue, bronze, copper, green, red, and silver. All are 40 ft. Burrow speeds for true dragons range from 20 ft. (for the blue) to 45 ft. (for the li lung). Since burrowing is a primary tactic of the stone dragon, I'd recommend going toward the high end.

 

[freyar]

You mean mental stats based on green (physical based on copper)? Other than that, I like all your suggestions. I'd go with the 45ft burrow speed, or maybe 40 (so it's the same as base land speed).