Converting True Dragons

[freyar]

Whew, this breath weapon's going to be a doozy!

 

[RavinRay]

Well, that breath weapon reminds me in some ways of the 2e crystal dragon's crystalline shards breath weapon. From the description, it seems that the beam seems to illuminate dust particles in the air.

I'm getting ahead of the stats, but the entrancing effect reminds me of the nymph's blinding beauty and the scintillating pattern spell.

BTW Shade since the land dragons comprise a distinct subcategory of dragons, they might warrant a separate introductory material (like epic dragons) that describe their common traits, including their faster aging process.

 

[freyar]

Well, that breath weapon reminds me in some ways of the 2e crystal dragon's crystalline shards breath weapon. From the description, it seems that the beam seems to illuminate dust particles in the air.

I'm getting ahead of the stats, but the entrancing effect reminds me of the nymph's blinding beauty and the scintillating pattern spell.

I can see that. Speaking of the stats, anyone have a line on how these compare to dragons of the appropriate edition?

BTW Shade since the land dragons comprise a distinct subcategory of dragons, they might warrant a separate introductory material (like epic dragons) that describe their common traits, including their faster aging process.

That sounds like a good idea!

 

[Shade]

Comparing to other 1e dragons...

Its Hit Dice range wildly. At its top age category, it is equal to the high end of a gold's range.

Its bite damage at the top age category also equals a gold.

Its size is closer to a red or silver.

AC equals a copper.

Land speed is about standard for true dragons.

INT is closest to a white.

 

[freyar]

Wow, kind of all over the place. Here's a suggestion:

Mental ability score progression: White
HD progression: Gold
Physical ability scores: Gold
Size: Red
AC: Copper

The slightly smaller size will drop the damage of melee attacks, but going with Gold physical abilities may make up for that slightly.

 

[Big Mac]

Can you update your "shopping list"?/Are you doing SJ dragons?

Please excuse me interupting the flow of your conversions, but I have a question:

The following is a list of true dragons from various D&D sources that haven't yet appeared in official WotC products, the Tome of Horrors, or the Creature Catalog.

(I've cut the actual list off, to make this post shorter.)

Is there any chance that you could modify the list at some point. I don't want you to delete stuff, as the post is a record of all the hard work everyone is doing. But it might be nice for you to add a note to tell people what dragons are done (and maybe a link to point people to the finished conversion).

MC9: Spelljammer II
-Moon
-Stellar
-Sun

These dragons are not listed on your Unconverted Spelljammer creatures thread, so I thought you might have done them here. But I couldn't find them.

I'm assuming they are not on the other thread, because Shattered Fractine already has conversons of the Moon Dragon, Stellar Dragon and Sun Dragon.

I know that sometimes you do monsters again, even when they have been done before. Are you going to use the Shattered Fractine versions or remake these dragons? (I don't see them on the Monsters of Wildspace list at Beyond the Moons. And the existing conversions don't include the additional SUs and subtypes on BtM's Monsters in Spelljammer page.)

I would like to see these dragons (and the Radiant Dragon - which you seem to have either missed out or done already) given the Natural Spelljammer (Su) and the Wildspace Subtype.

If I hang aroud this thread, is that likely to happen, or should I take this up elsewhere?

 

[Shade]

Hey Big Mac!

I believe I had them listed because they didn't have an official WotC conversion. Lately, I've been prioritizing creatures that haven't been converted by any other websites (per Echohawk's index). I figure if and when we're caught up, we might do our own take on conversions. We may still do some creatures already converted elsewhere if we get a request, or if they're a favorite creature we'd like to put our "stamp" on (like the elementals of law and chaos we started when Mortis was around).

So we'll probably finish up those that have been unconverted anywhere before tackling any that have already been done elsewhere.

I'm not sure why I didn't include the radiant, but I suspect it is due to the radiant dragon in the Draconomicon (which is probably quite different than the Spelljammer version).

Does that help?

 

[Shade]

Wow, kind of all over the place. Here's a suggestion:

Mental ability score progression: White
HD progression: Gold
Physical ability scores: Gold
Size: Red
AC: Copper

The slightly smaller size will drop the damage of melee attacks, but going with Gold physical abilities may make up for that slightly.

I think that could work. I'll Homebrews these guys when I have a big chunk of freetime. True dragons are lots of work to set up!

 

[freyar]

I think that could work. I'll Homebrews these guys when I have a big chunk of freetime. True dragons are lots of work to set up!

No joke. I'm homebrewing the dracohydra right now in my spare time. Copying into tables from another thread has taken me 2 days so far and still isn't done!

 

[Shade]

Added to Homebrews.