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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8374360" data-attributes="member: 57383">You know technically its Goblin suzerain power would apply to Disguise checks as written. That seems a bit, well odd. I'm imagining a giant cave lord looming over a cowering goblin, hissing "I am a beautiful young elf, aren't I!" The same issue applies to Animal Empathy I guess, but in a pinch we could rewrite it so the suzerainty only applies to certain checks. Oh and I should definitely have included Bluff, so better edit that in.So maybe:Goblin Suzerain (Ex) : [Version #5/#6] A cave lord has a +4/+8 racial bonus on Bluff, Diplomacy and Intimidate checks against any goblinoid whose size category and Hit Dice are both less than its own. It also has a +2 racial bonus on the saving throw DC when it casts spells and spell-like abilities of the Enchantment school or with the Fear descriptor on such lesser goblinoids.I currently prefer option #3 sans disguise:Goblin Suzerain (Ex) : [Version #7] A cave lord has a +8 racial bonus on Charisma-based checks against any goblinoid whose size category and Hit Dice are both less than its own, except for Disguise checks. It also has a +2 racial bonus on the saving throw DC when it casts spells and spell-like abilities of the Enchantment school or with the Fear descriptor on such lesser goblinoids.Skills: Bluff +7 (+15 vs lesser goblins), Diplomacy +7 (+15 vs lesser goblins), Disguise +2 (+4 acting), Intimidate +7 (+15 vs lesser goblins), Listen +7, Move Silently +7, Spot +7That's my favourite version so far!</blockquote>

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