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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 8840637" data-attributes="member: 6716779">As the title says. D&D has almost died 3 times but could it happen a 4th time?  For purposes if this question I'm going to ignore events that are highly unlikely and would really mess things up. This means WW3, Supervolcanoes, great depression etc basically things completely beyond WotC control. Could they botch things that badly purely on their own merits? Also an edition flopping by itself won't kill D&D. Nor am I talking about no more D&D ever but something similar to the other near collapses/TSR going under.  So in what somewhat plausible scenario could D&D die again?  Here's my scenario. 1. The D&D movie flops (for whatever reason). A flop here means it loses money roughly speaking it needs to make around double it's production+marketing costs not if it makes hundreds of millions of box office or the quality of the movie or if you liked it. $200 million box office could still be a flop. Does the movie make money yes/no is the only criteria. 2. One D&D flops for whatever reason. Bit harder to know but if it's 4E 2.0 and it goes out of print in a few years it's probably a flop. 3.  Hasbro/WotC themselves get into trouble due to whatever reasons. This means no MtG money to bail out D&D.  So that's roughly the scenario that's somewhat plausible.   This is not a prediction, projection, want desire etc.  Why plausible? For those of you who don't know is Magic is not in the best condition right now and Hasbros stock price is falling.  Due to various decisions made by WotC there's a lot of angry MtG players out there. It's probably worse than 4E comparatively. Espicially to WotC bottom line. There's also multiple reasons but overprinting sets, to much product and to expensive with deluxe products aimed at whales seems to be big issues.   How bad is it? They're dumping MtG product for sale on Amazon cheaper than distributors can get it. And they're asking people why they're no longer playing standard. And Bank of America has commented on what's happening. How it plays out in the future no idea.  And that's basically how D&D could tank again a simultaneous collapse of D&D and MtG. Probably won't happen but it's a somewhat plausible scenario.</blockquote>

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