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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 71174" data-attributes="member: 413">Can some one _please_ point me to where it says in the PHB or DMG that gaining a negative level includes a lose of 5 hit points?&nbsp; I can't find it...not in the PHB glossary entry for negative levels, not in the DMG Energy Drain definition.&nbsp;&nbsp; The _only_ place I can find it is in the SRD...I even looked in the errata for both the DMG and PHB and couldn't find it.Anyway...I think this was discussed a long time ago and Caliban's answer was that a crit with a spell that does _any_ kind of damage doubles the damage.&nbsp; This included ablity score damage, hp damage and negative levels.&nbsp; So if you crit with enervation, you do 2d4 negative levels(at least that's how I remeber it).As for as Enervation and what it does: It inflicts 1d4 negative levels and all that that entails.&nbsp; If gaining a negative level means losing 5 hp, then it also includes that, even if it doesn't mention it in the spell description.&nbsp; You can't rely on spells to give you the complete description of the conditions they inflict.&nbsp; If a spell stuns a creature, you should look up the stunned description in the DMG Conditions section or PHB glossary.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uller, post: 71174, member: 413"] Can some one _please_ point me to where it says in the PHB or DMG that gaining a negative level includes a lose of 5 hit points? I can't find it...not in the PHB glossary entry for negative levels, not in the DMG Energy Drain definition. The _only_ place I can find it is in the SRD...I even looked in the errata for both the DMG and PHB and couldn't find it. Anyway...I think this was discussed a long time ago and Caliban's answer was that a crit with a spell that does _any_ kind of damage doubles the damage. This included ablity score damage, hp damage and negative levels. So if you crit with enervation, you do 2d4 negative levels(at least that's how I remeber it). As for as Enervation and what it does: It inflicts 1d4 negative levels and all that that entails. If gaining a negative level means losing 5 hp, then it also includes that, even if it doesn't mention it in the spell description. You can't rely on spells to give you the complete description of the conditions they inflict. If a spell stuns a creature, you should look up the stunned description in the DMG Conditions section or PHB glossary. [/QUOTE]

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