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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 71307" data-attributes="member: 1656">I'm having trouble wading through the sarcasm to get to your point.I have a first printing, and as Mark says, there's no mention of the -5hp/level.If I read the Player's Handbook Rules Corrections PDF and the Clarifications PDF - which are supposed to contain any changes between the first and second printings - there's no mention of -5hp/level.When the subject first came up, I was completely confused as to where people were getting this rule from.To someone without a second printing, it simply doesn't exist.Summing up :First Printing PHB Enervation: No mention.First Printing PHB Energy Drain: "As Enervation".  No mention.First Printing PHB Glossary, "negative levels": No mention.DMG Special Abilities, "energy drain" : No mention.DMG Condition Summary, "energy drained" : No mention.MM Special Attacks, "energy drain" : No mention.MM Individual Monster entries : No mention.To me, -5hp per negative level is secret WotC Insider Information, because it isn't mentioned in any of the three Core Rules manuals I own, or the errata for the PHB, or the errata for the DMG.  Supposedly, this is all I need to play the game - the errata'd First Printing PHB is supposed to be the same as the Second Printing PHB.Can you see why some of us go "Huh?" when the subject of hit point loss for negative levels comes up?-Hyp.</blockquote>