CR for a Hag Covey?

Ravilah

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Maybe I've gone blind or stupid, but I don't think the MM gives a CR for a covey of hags. It can't possibly be just the sum of the hags 3 CRs, can it? They get so many extra powers (powerful ones!) when they work as a single entity. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance.
R
 

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Ravilah said:
Maybe I've gone blind or stupid, but I don't think the MM gives a CR for a covey of hags. It can't possibly be just the sum of the hags 3 CRs, can it? They get so many extra powers (powerful ones!) when they work as a single entity. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance.
R

To calculate EL (the sum of CRs, so to speak), there's a bit of complicated math involved.

Lets say you have two CR 8 creatures. Their combined EL is 10 (doubling goes to +2). If you had a CR 7 and a CR 9 creature, they still come to EL 10.

If you increase by 50% (so, take an EL 10 encounter of two CR 8 creatures, then add another one), increase the EL by 1. (The EL is now 11.)
 

Yes, yes. There are charts in the DM's guide to calculate such things (though thanks for the reply). My thought was that since the hags gain access to such powerful extra magic, does the CR go up more than it would for a normal group of three CR 6-7 creatures?
 

Good point. The SRD does not give any indication that the CR goes up for the covey members, but I agree that the heroes should get more XP. I'd suggest an adjusted XP award for each hag defeated in the covey, say like +25%.
 

3.0 MM did have separate Challenge Ratings for individual hags versus a covey (3.0 MM p. 115).
- Sea Hag: 4 or 12 (covey)
- Annis: 6 or 12 (covey)
- Green Hag: 5 or 12 (covey)
 


(Psi)SeveredHead said:
According to my calculations ;), three independent hags would then have an EL of only 8. (An EL of 12 is a big jump.)
A covey of hags includes "3 hags of any kind plus 1–8 ogres and 1–4 evil giants".
 

*thinks really the WotC hags are weak and if you want a REALLY good hag covey, get a Storm Hag, a Moon Hag and an Annis.*
 

I'm not sure that the CR of 12 for the 3 Hags included the Giants and Ogres (espcially since there are CR 12 giants out there).

I think the CR 12 just represents the Force Cage, Vision, and other powerful abilities that a covey has.
 


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